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Let's give the gankers what they want

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Kaerf Arkanghel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#161 - 2014-03-15 19:33:02 UTC
Kyperion wrote:
Kara Vix wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:


The whole point of a video game is to escape from reality for a while, even role players will tell you that the player and the characters are not the same person. This extends to other walks of life too, Patrick Stewart is not the same as Jean Luc Picard.


The poster you replied to will never get that because he NEEDS to believe that something (anything) will make him superior to others, most likely because that doesn't exist for him in real life.


I've gotten to know a few 'gankers' and 'pirates' via the alliances i've been in and the forums i've been in (as well as other media like facebook and a few north Texas EVE player meet ups) and a high proportion of them are people who actually do real life things for other people. Other folks in law enforcement, EMTs, a pair of brothers who are religious missionaries, an honest to God man and wife peace corps couple, a few doctors/nurses/health care workers, teachers and college professors, a social services counselor ect ect. These are the bad guys of EVE.

The 'good guys' are unemployed basement dwellers swilling mom-bought juice boxes and dad-bought hotpockets while feeling superior because they don't shoot certain space ships in a spaceships shooty game. While the last sentence might seem hyperbolic, well, if it is, it's not by a whole lot.


How would you possibly know what walks of life players are from, your statement is presumptuous. I am a 'good guy' type player and in real life I am a retired police officer (early retirement-injured). My husband is also a carebear type, in real life an engineer who donates time training underprivileged kids the martial arts at a local civic center. I would think peoples playstyle have nothing to do with anything in real life, but rather what they find to be fun.

more important, who gives a damn..... this is about fixing the idiotic notion that a dystopian world would be filled with unarmed ships mining/hauling the bread n butter of the galaxy.... I don't really give a **** what they do in real life.... they shoot at me .... I don't care if I'm flying a ******* shuttle I should have a means by which to kill the ************.... WITH MY OWN BLOODY SHIP.


You're right, who gives a damn!?

So shut up, stop QQ and play the damn game!!!

Just Add Water
Kyperion
#162 - 2014-03-15 19:49:49 UTC
Kaerf Arkanghel wrote:
Kyperion wrote:
Kara Vix wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:


The whole point of a video game is to escape from reality for a while, even role players will tell you that the player and the characters are not the same person. This extends to other walks of life too, Patrick Stewart is not the same as Jean Luc Picard.


The poster you replied to will never get that because he NEEDS to believe that something (anything) will make him superior to others, most likely because that doesn't exist for him in real life.


I've gotten to know a few 'gankers' and 'pirates' via the alliances i've been in and the forums i've been in (as well as other media like facebook and a few north Texas EVE player meet ups) and a high proportion of them are people who actually do real life things for other people. Other folks in law enforcement, EMTs, a pair of brothers who are religious missionaries, an honest to God man and wife peace corps couple, a few doctors/nurses/health care workers, teachers and college professors, a social services counselor ect ect. These are the bad guys of EVE.

The 'good guys' are unemployed basement dwellers swilling mom-bought juice boxes and dad-bought hotpockets while feeling superior because they don't shoot certain space ships in a spaceships shooty game. While the last sentence might seem hyperbolic, well, if it is, it's not by a whole lot.


How would you possibly know what walks of life players are from, your statement is presumptuous. I am a 'good guy' type player and in real life I am a retired police officer (early retirement-injured). My husband is also a carebear type, in real life an engineer who donates time training underprivileged kids the martial arts at a local civic center. I would think peoples playstyle have nothing to do with anything in real life, but rather what they find to be fun.

more important, who gives a damn..... this is about fixing the idiotic notion that a dystopian world would be filled with unarmed ships mining/hauling the bread n butter of the galaxy.... I don't really give a **** what they do in real life.... they shoot at me .... I don't care if I'm flying a ******* shuttle I should have a means by which to kill the ************.... WITH MY OWN BLOODY SHIP.


You're right, who gives a damn!?

So shut up, stop QQ and play the damn game!!!

yes, because you are totally not Qqing about my QQ................
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#163 - 2014-03-15 20:00:11 UTC
Kaerf Arkanghel wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
This is true, because both types of pirates, EvE and somali ship pirates, are bad people who do bad things against other real people.

Take your medication. No, EVE pirates don't do bad things against real people.


Except completely dehumanize the people they're stealing from to disable their self-condemnation of their immoral acts.


i have a friend who is an ER doctor irl, he saves ALOT of lives!

he plays EvE as a pirate and most of the time he only logs in just to blow ships up.

are you saying he's immoral?

may i remind you that the "RP" in MMORPG stands for "role playing".

you are preaching morality in the wrong audience dude.

are you one of those people blaming "video games" the reason for some nutjob shooting schools?


Your doctor friend is immoral if he plays eve with the intention to derive pleasure through inflicting pain, cruelty, degradation, or humiliation on others.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#164 - 2014-03-15 20:46:48 UTC
Yonis Zanjoahir wrote:
I sortof agree with the OP tbh.
In the history of terrible design decision by CCP the fact that mining ships and haulers are generally without defense, mobility OR offense while not actually earning more ISK than combat ships do missioning / killing rats, etc.. is perheps the worst and most inexplicable.

It's like they initially expected for combat pilots to fight around these ships and over mining rights and such (lol) and they expected barges to be protected 24/7. And when it practically never happened - because it makes no economic sense, intead of balancing things they said **** it let's just make new supercaptials and new ship and module tiers.

It's like EvE PvP ship "balance" is Rock. Paper, Scissors and a stinking pile of worthless Poop. And everything beats flying the pile of Poop.


Haulers and mining ships are perfectly capable of defending themselves.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#165 - 2014-03-15 20:47:47 UTC
Kyperion wrote:

more important, who gives a damn..... this is about fixing the idiotic notion that a dystopian world would be filled with unarmed ships mining/hauling the bread n butter of the galaxy.... I don't really give a **** what they do in real life.... they shoot at me .... I don't care if I'm flying a ******* shuttle I should have a means by which to kill the ************.... WITH MY OWN BLOODY SHIP.


You can.
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#166 - 2014-03-15 20:59:37 UTC
Don Purple wrote:
They are prey, a creature that is hunted and killed by another for food, or in this case tasty tears.
this is not exactly true.. what I carry and mount can hardly be considered "loot" and my tears taste like vaseline and old used coffee grounds mixed with onions... they still try to gank me. But seriously, while I don't think any of these suggestion are really going to help the game much, I am for a much larger drone bay for ore ships; it won't help against a ganker that much but it would make sense.

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admiral root
Red Galaxy
#167 - 2014-03-15 21:09:37 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
Your doctor friend is immoral if he plays eve with the intention to derive pleasure through inflicting pain, cruelty, degradation, or humiliation on others.


I think this puts you in the same league as an ex-president who said athiests can't be patriots. I just hope you don't mistake that for a compliment.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#168 - 2014-03-15 23:07:11 UTC
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There are more rules to quote and say why the thread is being closed, but even having to list three is three more than I'd like to have to quote.

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