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Skill Queue Update via EVE Gate
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Resgo
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-03-15 20:06:01 UTC
EVE Gate has been up and running for a couple years now. It already handles the multi-form authentication and is controlled by CCP in house. When are we going to be able to update skill queues via EVE Gate? This would eliminate many of the risks that would come with skill queue updates via APIs and still allow people to do it from mobile devices and their machines that do not have EVE installed.
Anhenka
The New Federation
Sigma Grindset
#2 - 2014-03-15 20:18:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Anhenka
When? Probably never.

Giving people ways to not even bother logging in is a bit of a poor decision for game companies.

Sure you can just log in, change a que, then log off. Even the most burned out bittervet.

But you might also log in, see something interesting happen, and go do it too.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#3 - 2014-03-15 23:09:16 UTC
Anhenka wrote:
When? Probably never.

Giving people ways to not even bother logging in is a bit of a poor decision for game companies.

Sure you can just log in, change a que, then log off. Even the most burned out bittervet.

But you might also log in, see something interesting happen, and go do it too.


/thread.
Tear Harvesters HaveNoLives
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-03-15 23:12:25 UTC
Anhenka wrote:
When? Probably never.

Giving people ways to not even bother logging in is a bit of a poor decision for game companies.

Sure you can just log in, change a que, then log off. Even the most burned out bittervet.

But you might also log in, see something interesting happen, and go do it too.

Disagree.

Making people log in each day or two to adjust the skill queue makes the game feel like a chore. At some point that combines with all the other boring things about EVE and you end up feeling like you log in and play as a chore, not as a game. And so you quit.

Making the game less tedious is only helpful IMO.
Damien White
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-03-15 23:22:44 UTC
risks that would come with skill update via API?

Someone has no idea how API works.



Anyway, be thankfull for the current system and yes, since there are tons of skills out there taking a month or more to train to level 5 I dont see a problem with the current system.

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"DO A BARREL ROLL!"
scimichar
Deep Hole Explorers of New Eden
#6 - 2014-03-15 23:42:40 UTC
Tear Harvesters HaveNoLives wrote:
[quote=Anhenka]
Making people log in each day or two to adjust the skill queue makes the game feel like a chore. At some point that combines with all the other boring things about EVE and you end up feeling like you log in and play as a chore, not as a game. And so you quit.

Making the game less tedious is only helpful IMO.


Double click EVE exe file, update skill queue. Double click firefox exe file, update skill queue. How does updating skill queue on a browser make it less of a chore?
Damien White
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-03-15 23:43:55 UTC
He has Auto Login in his browser.

97% of girls would die if Justin Bieber were about to jump off a cliff. Post this in your sig if you`re part of the 3% yelling,

"DO A BARREL ROLL!"
Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#8 - 2014-03-15 23:58:29 UTC
this removes interaction with other people from the game, interaction is what keeps people playing, not ease of doing something

Holding sov isn't easy, but the big blocks do it, because their players are engaged, and ready to log on at any time (and well trained/skilled)

For posting an idea into F&I: come up with idea, try and think how people could abuse this, try to fix your idea - loop the process until you can't see how it could be abused, then post to the forums to let us figure out how to abuse it..... If your idea can be abused, it [u]WILL[/u] be.
Resgo
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-03-16 02:38:16 UTC
scimichar wrote:

Double click EVE exe file, update skill queue. Double click firefox exe file, update skill queue. How does updating skill queue on a browser make it less of a chore?

You often have access to a browser where you do not have access to the game. IE on your phone, at work, etc.
Resgo
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-03-16 02:47:30 UTC
Damien White wrote:
risks that would come with skill update via API?

Someone has no idea how API works.

You're talking about what EVE calls API currently. An Application Programming Interface is where a set of functions are exposed to other programmers for certain functions and methods. In EVE's case all of the exposed functions are read only and do not have any update ability. CCP would need to implement an additional set of API calls for doing any type of update to character accounts with a lot more security focus required. By exposing character skill queue APIs it would allow people to write programs or extend existing ones like EVE Mon to update the queues. While these would be very powerful the security issues could turn into a big problem. Which is why I was stating it was safer if they built it into EVE Gate rather than an API.