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The rich may "own the entire planet" but that doesn't give them super-human powers.

Owning something, be it a car, home, company or country doesn't mean you can fix its problems... or even understand them.

Welcome to EVE! I hope you've had a pleasant couple of years so far. When I joined eve, I remember a "PLEX" (they were called 30day GTCs back then) was 180m ISK and rising.

Yes, there is a reason for this. It doesn't really have all that much to do with PLEX itself, but the fact that players are printing truckloads of ISK every day by running missions, killing NPCs, claiming insurance, and so on, and only burning a handful in the form of taxes, LP store, corporate fees, etc..

The same thing is happening to ores / minerals - thousands of players spend their entire playtime mining or looting missions (printing minerals), and almost never cause any explosions that make minerals disappear. For every unit of, say, tritanium a miner creates, the value of each individual piece of tritanium goes down by an immeasurable fraction. For every tritanium you destroy, the value of each tritanium goes up a little bit.

So as long more tritanium is created, and less tritanium is destroyed than is created, the value of individual tritanium pieces goes down.

The same applies to all items in the game, even PLEX. The difference is that PLEX doesn't grow on trees, per se. There are no "PLEX belts" you can mine for an infinitely respawning source of PLEX. So the number of PLEX in the game is not rising nearly as fast as the number of minerals or ISK.

Thus, if you want to exchange your ISK for PLEX, you'll want to do it now, while the ISK is still worth more than 4 milliseconds of gametime.

If they took the planet, it's because the others did not fight to avoid that.

Many were bought up, showing they are no better than those "owners".
Many more were just spineless amoebas who let others play their cards. Big surprise, their cards lost.

Few years at least imho. PLEX price grows but not that rapidly. If your ingame income doesnt grow faster than plex you probably suck in eve.

It will be interesting to see what happens over the next year or so.

If PLEX hit 1B or even 2 B then we should see a big drop in the number of people who can afford to pay their accounts using PLEX. However if people can sell their PLEX for 2B isk I imagine many more people paying real life money to be in game rich (assuming PLEX has increased more than general inflation)

The piece of the puzzle I am looking forward to playing out is mineral supply. We all know a huge % of the mineral supply comes from multiboxing miners paying for their 10+ accounts with PLEX. If they can't afford to pay with PLEX, will they move to paying for those accounts with real money? Or will we see a big drop in mineral supply as they let most of their accounts lapse.

I can sell you in private contract a PLEX for 680M !

Send me a private message if you are interested.

While some of your logic is valid, the idea that something of scarcity is guaranteed to increased in price is completely incorrect. I would estimate that PLEX is currently above its true value due to the large number of largely uninformed speculators. Yes in the long term PLEX will likely continue to rise, but there will often be localised declines.

Investing in PLEX when it is peaking will mean decrease the value of the investment, better to invest in conventional items until the bubble pops, then go for the long term investment.

Also in all of this it is worth noting the opportunity cost, the ISK you earn from investing in PLEX even over a peroid of relatively good growth is not 'free ISK' chances are more could have been made by investing in something with steeper growth and you may have made an opportunity loss, although long term it'll still be ok

Three words.
precalc. exponential. 2016.

Edit: May 11, 2016 using your numbers, but more likely March or September due to seasonal patterns.

Indeed, and that's probably a better way to model the price rise anyway.


Point is, "not for a couple years at this rate" is the answer to the OP.

I remember paying 315mil for 100day codes, and 115 for 30s. I also remember having to pay 15$ for this game, for years. So quit bitching you get to play for free and stop being poor.