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Sleeper Aggression altered in 1.3..
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Cypher Decypher
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2014-03-12 21:15:11 UTC
At the very bottom of the patch notes (as usual) comes the W-space tweak:

"The aggression range of Sleeper NPC's has been adjusted in all wormhole sites"

I've not been posting/browsing the forums for a while so excuse me if I sound ignorant but can anyone lay some useful facts on this little gem, or link me to a thread?

Cheers
Nightingale Actault
Borderland Dynamics
#2 - 2014-03-12 21:19:01 UTC
Cypher Decypher
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2014-03-12 21:27:26 UTC
Cheers bud
hshshshshshshsh
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-03-13 05:23:16 UTC
Don't thank him :P

The thread he linked is refering to Rubicon 1.1.8 patchnotes..
Quote:
Sleeper craft have received much needed sensor upgrades and can now detect and process threats across great distances. They’re watching you. Always.
Sleeper reinforcement protocols have been improved to reduce unsightly clustering.


So, anyone know any details about the 1.3 patchnotes?
Quote:
The aggression range of Sleeper NPC's has been adjusted in all wormhole sites.
Van Steiza
Whale Girth
Touched by the Tism
#5 - 2014-03-13 11:06:39 UTC
Wait there doin this to further stop people running solo escalations arent they.

Pffft
D3m0n sam
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#6 - 2014-03-13 11:07:17 UTC
Van Steiza wrote:
Wait there doin this to further stop people running solo escalations arent they.

Pffft


Wasn't this to do with a exploit with gas sites or something?
Van Steiza
Whale Girth
Touched by the Tism
#7 - 2014-03-13 11:09:45 UTC
D3m0n sam wrote:
Van Steiza wrote:
Wait there doin this to further stop people running solo escalations arent they.

Pffft


Wasn't this to do with a exploit with gas sites or something?



Doubt it, they already nerfed the sites so that its harder to run them solo but you can still do it.

Seems like they want to rid that possibility all together.

Thing is it is extremely risky to do in the first place.

I dont get CCP - they stifle innovation completely.
D3m0n sam
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#8 - 2014-03-13 11:11:35 UTC
Van Steiza wrote:
D3m0n sam wrote:
Van Steiza wrote:
Wait there doin this to further stop people running solo escalations arent they.

Pffft


Wasn't this to do with a exploit with gas sites or something?



Doubt it, they already nerfed the sites so that its harder to run them solo but you can still do it.

Seems like they want to rid that possibility all together.

Thing is it is extremely risky to do in the first place.

I dont get CCP - they stifle innovation completely.


CCP = never make sense.
Justin Cody
War Firm
#9 - 2014-03-13 19:33:58 UTC
Van Steiza wrote:
D3m0n sam wrote:
Van Steiza wrote:
Wait there doin this to further stop people running solo escalations arent they.

Pffft


Wasn't this to do with a exploit with gas sites or something?



Doubt it, they already nerfed the sites so that its harder to run them solo but you can still do it.

Seems like they want to rid that possibility all together.

Thing is it is extremely risky to do in the first place.

I dont get CCP - they stifle innovation completely.


running a site solo isn't innovation. If you wanna play EVE solo go join an npc corp. You can still mostly run them solo in marauders. Of course when a fleet enters your system and hard tackles you while soloing a site...fun things happen. We had one guy say, "My Paladin is pimp fit now...there is no way I can die!" He died 5 minutes later to players who ganked him in a site. Oh EVE how I love you.

Innovation would involve something *new* and well there is nothing new about trying to solo sites unless you do it in a way no one else thought of. Like...using bombers to bomb spawns out of existence. That would be hilarious and fun!
Lee Janssen
Zero Fun Allowed
#10 - 2014-03-14 09:09:33 UTC
Justin Cody wrote:
Van Steiza wrote:
D3m0n sam wrote:
Van Steiza wrote:
Wait there doin this to further stop people running solo escalations arent they.

Pffft


Wasn't this to do with a exploit with gas sites or something?



Doubt it, they already nerfed the sites so that its harder to run them solo but you can still do it.

Seems like they want to rid that possibility all together.

Thing is it is extremely risky to do in the first place.

I dont get CCP - they stifle innovation completely.


running a site solo isn't innovation. If you wanna play EVE solo go join an npc corp. You can still mostly run them solo in marauders. Of course when a fleet enters your system and hard tackles you while soloing a site...fun things happen. We had one guy say, "My Paladin is pimp fit now...there is no way I can die!" He died 5 minutes later to players who ganked him in a site. Oh EVE how I love you.

Innovation would involve something *new* and well there is nothing new about trying to solo sites unless you do it in a way no one else thought of. Like...using bombers to bomb spawns out of existence. That would be hilarious and fun!




Yea... That's definitely new >.>
Janeway84
Insane's Asylum
#11 - 2014-03-14 12:22:06 UTC
or if they had tractor beams that could pull ships to you? Twisted
Cypher Decypher
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2014-03-23 15:13:01 UTC
Well I read up a bit and apparently there *was* a high-end gas site that could be solo mined (if you positioned your Venture 'just so') outside the sensor range of Sleeper spawns. So I'm assuming this tweak was to stop that happening.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#13 - 2014-03-25 10:03:30 UTC
Bane was running relic sites without killing the sleepers. CCP punished us all for Banes evil ways.

I just got back into doing escallations. They do spawn a bit more spread out. Not much, but it isn't possible to pop them all without webs anymore. I mean, yeah you could, but it would take a while - over half get to orbit range before you can kill them. 3 dreads you can almost do it and I would say 4 you could totally do it. I wouldn't call it a nerf to small operations, but if you typically drop 8 dreads on a site and pankoon it - then you won't even notice the change.

Thanks Bane, I'll put this on the long long list of things you have ruined.
Ronix Aideron
Zymurgy Corp.
#14 - 2014-03-25 17:40:59 UTC
Cypher Decypher wrote:
Well I read up a bit and apparently there *was* a high-end gas site that could be solo mined (if you positioned your Venture 'just so') outside the sensor range of Sleeper spawns. So I'm assuming this tweak was to stop that happening.



There is one. I know that you can mine the entire C32 cloud in a Vast Frontier without killing or getting aggro from the Sleepers. I read this change to not allow this anymore.

Start the day off slow and taper off from there.

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Ronix_Aideron
Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
#15 - 2014-03-27 03:45:12 UTC
I may have had something to do with this...

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