EVE General Discussion

Explaining why your position and argument is incoherent and inconsistent is not trolling — it is only what it is.

Does it explain that they often try to avoid responding directly to questions or arguments directed at them and instead attempt to inject all manner of diversions and fallacies in the hope that it will hide the fact that they have no concrete argument to begin with? We have already established fairly well what category you fall into, so the results in that article should hardly come as a surprise to you.

His post is deliberately designed to point out that your playing the victim makes only exposes the hypocrisy of your argumentation.

You know something that is completely made up and devoid of any kind of basis in reality? Interesting…

Only if you take my advice as "laugh at yourself along with the bullies". I'm not saying that, what I'm proposing is that he is being targeted soley because of his response; in short if he stops crying (by going "lol gf") the bullies go away. If the problem persists, they are not bullies on the strictest sense; they are not removing more fun from him than they are gaining themselves. That means they're on a simple business venture, and in that case it's only bullying if the food chain is bullying.

"It's not personal." Is my message; he's being mugged in a sidestreet, not bullied on the playground. The former is logical and understandable for me, the latter is too but uncodonable for me.

At the end though, if you can't laugh at your misfortune eve will end up hurting you every time you lose; it's a zero sum game meaning if someone wins the other loses. But you don't get emotionaly upset when your kindergarten football team loses a goal, sure you'd rather it not happen, but at the end of the day you still enjoyed playing the game did you not?

Your idea of gain and loss is different to theirs, which is also perfectly fine in our society.

Different people can have different goals and they can sometimes compete. Someone is going to win and someone is going to lose.

It's not wrong in EvE for people to shoot at you. It's not wrong for them to blow up your ship, just as it's not wrong if you are adequately tanked and Concord gets them first in highsec.

It's totally wrong if they attacked you in real life.

In a single shard sandbox game, what is wrong is expecting that you have the right to play the way you want, but others don't have that same right.

PS. Coming back to my previous question. Your reference to Eve Australia. You do see how that could be interpreted as racist right? Are you Australian or is this a judgement you are making about all Australians in real life?

EVE is real. The real world would be the same if there weren't laws protecting the stupid. Well... the killing might be an issue, but that would regulate itself, because people would flock together in groups protecting each other. If you leave your group or can't actually provide any benefits for yours, though... then natural selection happens.

Divine Entervention, did you at any point consider that the following actions your part where offensive to me:

A) Refusal to answer my neutral query whether you look in person, as does your avatar ingame
B) Adding further insult ontop of that by throwing aspersions and wild speculations at me for asking a neutral query.

These where both extremely offensive to me.

My post you quote is not meant to ellicit any kind of response.
You mean very little to me, as I perceive you, as you turned out to be.
A very small and insignificant person who goes around telling other people they are bad, without analysing his own behavior first or applying the same standards to himself.

Those are my observations of you. Those are my conclusions of you. Those are my judgements of you. They are a result of your own behavior. You are responsible for those. I HOLD you responsible for them.

Just as you presume to judge others here, I do so onto you, and have found you a pitiable person and very wanting in moral fortitude or direction.

And now you whine that I am a sociopath/sadist for doing exactly the same thing you have?
That is ironic, and ultimately reinforces and confirms my position in regards to you.

I have not done here, or said, anything that you have yourself already not done. To me, others and the entire board at large.
How do you like your own medicine? Is it bitter? Does it stick in your craw?

The difference between us, and what makes me better than you, is that I can see and recognise that, whereas you lack the introspection, honesty, moral integrity and ultimately the ackonwledgement of responsibility to do so.

No, it's because it's not personal. You, as a person, had nothing to do with it, nor was morality a factor in going after you rather than someone else.

Sure, you will probably develop a trauma centered on the question “why me?”, but that's just it: the healing process will entail the realisation that it's not a relevant question because it was never personal — that it was just an irrational projection of your emotions onto his motives and motivations.

No, they're not. You are wrong in thinking that you have any “right” to play the game the way you like without intervention from others. Just like everyone else, you have to enforce your way on others to get what you want, and they have to do the same to you to get what they want.

It's simply how a multiplayer sandbox works.

No, it applies equally to everyone.

You only need to look at history to see how humanity would act.

Just removing law and order wouldn't cause a mass shift in peoples basic needs and wants. Order would emerge out of the chaos, not because we are intelligent beings, but because at a basic level, survival is an aim for all species, even those that have no cognitive thought.

The need to survive would result in a form of order emerging, just as in the past.

Upon making an offensive request to me for my personal information, the protection of my privacy ranks higher than your obsessive focus on my physical appearance IRL.

I'm sorry you're the type of person that feels it necessary to become emotionally upset because I do not care to share with you my personal information that is no business of yours, but I cannot hold myself accountable for your irrational thought process.

I'm sorry you're upset, and I hope you get over the fact that I wont indulge you with my private information.

If you seriously wish to know what it is I look like, well maybe throughout the course of time we may develop a friendship where I feel comfortable with sharing my self with you. Until then though, all you've demonstrated to me is a severe disrespect.

Because of this demonstration, I have the right to label you as someone who's opinions and irrational desires of me should be regarded as such and ignored.

Sorry

Not quite. I think we are both assuming that in a post apocalypse World, there would be no highsec, or if there is, we aren't referring to that part of, but only to a lawless component with no order.

That's my take on what he meant by his post anyway.

You are justifying robbing someone of their personal belongings to further an internet argument. You're proclaiming that there is no morality surrounding stealing.

I'm not stating that people who scam/gank/bump in EvE shouldn't be allowed to do so. In fact I enjoy it being a possibility. But I am allowed within the confines of human interaction to label such people who do so as those who engage in actions designed towards benefiting themselves at another's expense without concern for their desired way to play the game.

Considering that we all have the right to play the game how we wish, those who enact their right to impede my desired play style are liable to be thought of as people who perform actions solely for their own benefit at the expense of others regardless of their desired way to play the game.