EVE General Discussion

Usually because it proves you've played the game for a certain amount of time and have shown an interest in the topic.

Can you link to a post showing someone saying that a day 1 character can go around owning others?

My recollection of most of the posts is that the overwhelming view of experienced players is that every character can be useful from day 1.

There is a difference between being useful and owning others.

Aside from other new players and characters, a day 1 character is not going to own anyone. But there is a lot that a new character can do that is useful both to themselves (eg. complete all of the tutorial missions, which takes several days) and to others as part of a group.

Also, not all Corps have a minimum skillpoint requirement.

Many do, because skillpoints provide flexibility and Corps want to know that someone they accept can fit in.

Here's one.

My favourite was one where two players got day-old characters in Rifters and went to make a video about it. I just can't remember where it is.

That's a link to a YouTube video, not a forum post.

Great video though.

SP do matter, but more isn't always better. You're correct that having SP in the right place is more important than having lots of SP. The corporations requiring minimum SP are just lazy: what they should be doing is saying what skills they expect new members to have (e.g.: caldari frigate 4, propulsion jamming 4, shield upgrades 4). If they start linking you fits that require a bunch of skills to level 5, they're not particularly smart or new player friendly.

Fair enough.

Can't say I generally agree with it.

I could roll a 1 day alt now and go kill lots of new players, but in general I don't believe that day 1 characters have the flexibility on their own to be able to own others much further than their starter systems.

Throw them in a fleet with links and there is more scope, but in general the best thing a day 1 character can do is complete all of the tutorial missions unless they have a specific reason not too.

as said, a day 1 character can do a LOT, but you wont be killing anything. just get on a frigate and damp at max range, sounds silly, but you can single handedly win the engagement.

as far as why is there a limit, its simple, its there to filter people out. if you ask their recruitment officer for specifics you will find that you can probably meet those specifics with less than half their required SP. and probably, if you exceed their minimum SP by a few dozen millions, you still don't meet the specifics.

usually small FW corps, for example, fly in doctrine. you can have gall cruiser V, and perfect hybrid skills. but if they are flying Mallers with pulses, they will probably ask you to start training ammar.

A less cynical viewpoint is this: everyone wants tackle on their targets so the targets won't get away while being shot at. Unfortunately tackle takes mid slots, and some people are loathe to remove a tracking computer in order to have a scram. So they want other people to have the scram in the mid slot. So you need lots of new people with scrams in mid slots who don't care that they're not getting big numbers in their combat logs: they're having fun being part of "community" and watching their "friends" blow stuff up.

Minimum sp requirements keep the riff-raff from rolling quick spai alts to infiltrate your corps with.

No, it won't keep out ALL the spais, but it keeps out the lame assed spai wannabes.

Several others have mentioned it, but it helps keep out spies, it is a way of ensuring that you can maintain basic doctrines, it helps keep out spies, and it helps keep out spies. It's also useful for keeping out trial players, who haven't decided if they want to play the game for real or not.

Skillpoints aren't everything, and an older player will never be able to widen the gap as fast as a new player can close it.

But entry requirements are up to that particular corp, and don't necessarily reflect the reality of the game in general.