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Why do my weapon hardpoints not have a numerical readout?
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Shitty Shitty Pants
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-03-12 20:06:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Shitty Shitty Pants
http://i.imgur.com/7A4GF3Y.png

I really don't appreciate having to count dots each time I don't remember how many hard-points a certain ship has. Why do we even need dots? The point of the feature is to represent available hard points. It can easily say "0/7" or "4/7" to illustrate the same point.

We aren't 8 year old children CCP, we don't prefer pictures over raw information. Add back the numerical readout please.
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#2 - 2014-03-12 20:10:37 UTC
Put some paint on your ship and shut it.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-03-12 20:24:17 UTC
it looks pretty
however you need to count
however it looks pretty

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Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#4 - 2014-03-12 20:29:39 UTC
yeh didnt notice this but this is a dumb change. Just why ccp?
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#5 - 2014-03-12 21:14:31 UTC
OMG Shocked

Thanks for pointing this out.

UGH !

CCP what on Earth were you thinking? Seriously. What on Earth were you guys thinking ??? Evil

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Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#6 - 2014-03-12 21:34:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Batelle
stupid.

Just like it would be stupid to give us 7 highslot icons instead of the number 7 next to the highslot icon.

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Mehashi 'Kho
New Eden Motion Pictures
#7 - 2014-03-12 21:56:18 UTC
It is odd that's for sure. Personally I don't like the practicality of it for two reasons.

Firstly, of course counting dots is not as intuitive as having the number.

Secondly, In this example you can see that the red arrowed information is on the left (in the case for turreted ships) and yet in all other cases, and as demonstrated by the green box area, as well as in every other place I can think of the attribute is on the left and the value is on the right.

The key thing about keeping that kind of format is consistency, allowing for faster scanning of information. Now, instead of simply looking down the right hand side for the information you are expecting, your eyes will be bouncing left and right. Mixing values in line with attributes is messy!

I don't hate it but it is a piece of UI design that I don't understand the logic behind and I feel is less intuitive, which for me is the main point of a UI - to provide as much information as clearly and quickly as possible to the user in the easiest possible way to digest.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#8 - 2014-03-12 22:00:47 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
CCP what on Earth were you thinking? Seriously. What on Earth were you guys thinking ??? Evil

I've come to the conclusion that these decisions are sometimes made as a stealth way to gauge community passion for the game.

They troll us with changes and then see how many people come to complain about it.

If lots complain, then lots of people are passionate about the game and CCP is on the right track.

If no one complains, then no one cares and they have a problem.

I would say from this thread that they'll conclude they are currently doing things well.
Mehashi 'Kho
New Eden Motion Pictures
#9 - 2014-03-12 22:06:18 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:

If lots complain, then lots of people are passionate about the game and CCP is on the right track.

If no one complains, then no one cares and they have a problem.

I would say from this thread that they'll conclude they are currently doing things well.

Lol Big smile

I hope that my congratulating them on excellent d-scanning improvements earlier doesn't mean they take it as a lack of passion and revert the changes Shocked
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#10 - 2014-03-13 00:14:17 UTC
I'm sure this thread is generating high fives in the office. Big smile

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#11 - 2014-03-13 11:40:05 UTC
****** ****** Pants wrote:
Add back the numerical readout please.


Yeah, this is a stupid and annoying change. Ugh


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Victor Andall
#12 - 2014-03-13 11:43:07 UTC
Confession Carebear:

I have no idea how many hardpoints my ships have.

I just drag turrets until I can't anymore.

I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?

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admiral root
Red Galaxy
#13 - 2014-03-13 13:10:35 UTC
Batelle wrote:
Just like it would be stupid to give us 7 highslot icons instead of the number 7 next to the highslot icon.


Please don't give them ideas.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#14 - 2014-03-13 13:25:24 UTC
Bug report it.
If they close it for “working as intended”, re-open the report and explain that their intent is incorrect.
Shitty Shitty Pants
Doomheim
#15 - 2014-03-13 20:53:08 UTC
Made a petiton at the same time as the thread, we'll see what they have to say.
Flaming Forum Spammer
Doomheim
#16 - 2014-03-13 20:58:26 UTC
it is consistent with the fittings tab and if you can't count the dots, should you be allowed to play with anything more complex than a block of wood?
Pew Terror
All of it
#17 - 2014-03-13 21:55:02 UTC
People with problems like these you dont meet every day...
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#18 - 2014-03-13 21:56:52 UTC
Counting up to 8 dots.

Apparently that is too much to ask.

/wrists

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#19 - 2014-03-13 22:05:47 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Counting up to 8 dots.
…is horrible UI design compared to just printing the number. There is no excuse for that kind of incompetence.
Rhatar Khurin
Doomheim
#20 - 2014-03-13 22:45:32 UTC
I noticed this today i had to double take..

Seems a bizzare thing to mess about with.