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Archa4 Badasaz
Vangazhi
#81 - 2011-11-29 21:43:38 UTC
Ok. Here is my last comparison. I adjusted font size in chat using a- and A+ buttons. Unfortunately I can't do the same in overview. Here is the result:
http://i.imgur.com/3zdHE.jpg
Vincent Gaines
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#82 - 2011-11-29 21:43:47 UTC
Shkolnica wrote:
I have to post in there.
font size/stile mess

Looks great to me.

Not a diplo. 

The above post was edited for spelling.
Razin
The Scope
#83 - 2011-11-29 21:45:11 UTC
Archa4 Badasaz wrote:


http://i.imgur.com/KtYyQ.jpg

And now You tell me, which one is easier to read. I manually changed size of font in chat window, now it looks very, very nice. But every other window - crap...

In your example I find that both are very readable, but then I've been playing around on SISI since the new font showed up there. Like I said, it grows on you.
Ohanka
#84 - 2011-11-29 21:46:46 UTC
New font makes the game freakin unplayable, and it reset my bloody UI, now i have to reorganise the UI completely, yeah, thanks CCP, for an unreadable font and a reset UI.

Unacceptable.

North Korea is Best Korea
E Wan
The Positron
#85 - 2011-11-29 21:48:48 UTC
Guys don't be so selfish!

You have huge resolutions/big screens and we totally understand that this font is breakthrough for your eyes, but feel with people that are using something that is smaller in size! I can't even fit names in chat windows anymore! Not to mention already heavily narrowed PVP screen with all windows on (overview, select window, drones, targets, intel, fleet, fleet chat, local, gague... )

Please, just help them resolve for good of all.
Cozmik R5
Chez Stan
#86 - 2011-11-29 21:49:55 UTC
The whine is strong in this thread... pass the cheese plz!

Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#87 - 2011-11-29 21:50:12 UTC
Vaaron Remar wrote:
I have great problems using the new UI/Font (screen resolution 1680 x 1050). Evil

The new font ist way better readable than the old one, yes BUT !!!:

Setting UI scale to 100% and any icon looks good and everything ist scaled okay except the font in the menus, it's way too big.
If I want to see more than 4 columns the overview-window takes easily 1/3 to 1/2 of the screen (font-size in settings changes as usual only context menu font size). Changing UI-size to 90% makes the overview-font more tolerable (but not good!) but buttons and column headers are so tiny you have to guess what's written there. The relation between UI-scale and font-size doesn't seem to fit. It's possible to change the font-size in chat-windows and in the context-menu why is it not possible in overview ??? It's one, if not THE most important window in the game. It has lots of useful columns you want to have at hand in fight but showing them in a reasonable way without blocking the whole screen isn't possible anymore.

Hope there will be some fix soon Cry


There's an option in the overview settings to use small font Blink

♥ EVE Brogrammer ♥ Team Five 0 ♥ @CCP_Punkturis ♥
Ohanka
#88 - 2011-11-29 21:50:49 UTC
E Wan wrote:
Guys don't be so selfish!

You have huge resolutions/big screens and we totally understand that this font is breakthrough for your eyes, but feel with people that are using something that is smaller in size! I can't even fit names in chat windows anymore! Not to mention already heavily narrowed PVP screen with all windows on (overview, select window, drones, targets, intel, fleet, fleet chat, local, gague... )

Please, just help them resolve for good of all.


Maybe they need to allow an option for those who want a jitterbug style game and those who want a readable font, its a discrace. The game is unplayable and gives me a headache aftet about 5 minutes.

North Korea is Best Korea
E Wan
The Positron
#89 - 2011-11-29 21:53:34 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Vaaron Remar wrote:
I have great problems using the new UI/Font (screen resolution 1680 x 1050). Evil

The new font ist way better readable than the old one, yes BUT !!!:

Setting UI scale to 100% and any icon looks good and everything ist scaled okay except the font in the menus, it's way too big.
If I want to see more than 4 columns the overview-window takes easily 1/3 to 1/2 of the screen (font-size in settings changes as usual only context menu font size). Changing UI-size to 90% makes the overview-font more tolerable (but not good!) but buttons and column headers are so tiny you have to guess what's written there. The relation between UI-scale and font-size doesn't seem to fit. It's possible to change the font-size in chat-windows and in the context-menu why is it not possible in overview ??? It's one, if not THE most important window in the game. It has lots of useful columns you want to have at hand in fight but showing them in a reasonable way without blocking the whole screen isn't possible anymore.

Hope there will be some fix soon Cry


There's an option in the overview settings to use small font Blink


Is there such an option for all UI windows?
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#90 - 2011-11-29 21:54:13 UTC
Even though I know the change might be awful for some people, my 23 Inches LCD at 1920 over 3 feet from my leather couch and hence me say Thanx, I can finally read. No more squinting. I just hope this new font enables people to add diff types of it to the whole UI instead of just the new one. I for one would love ol'trusty arial to the ui.

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Ohanka
#91 - 2011-11-29 21:55:10 UTC
E Wan wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Vaaron Remar wrote:
I have great problems using the new UI/Font (screen resolution 1680 x 1050). Evil

The new font ist way better readable than the old one, yes BUT !!!:

Setting UI scale to 100% and any icon looks good and everything ist scaled okay except the font in the menus, it's way too big.
If I want to see more than 4 columns the overview-window takes easily 1/3 to 1/2 of the screen (font-size in settings changes as usual only context menu font size). Changing UI-size to 90% makes the overview-font more tolerable (but not good!) but buttons and column headers are so tiny you have to guess what's written there. The relation between UI-scale and font-size doesn't seem to fit. It's possible to change the font-size in chat-windows and in the context-menu why is it not possible in overview ??? It's one, if not THE most important window in the game. It has lots of useful columns you want to have at hand in fight but showing them in a reasonable way without blocking the whole screen isn't possible anymore.

Hope there will be some fix soon Cry


There's an option in the overview settings to use small font Blink


Is there such an option for all UI windows?


No, this is quite possibly the worst decision CCP has made. The old font was fine. if you had difficulty reading it maybe you need glasses or somthing.

North Korea is Best Korea
ucntkilme
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#92 - 2011-11-29 21:55:11 UTC
The font is fine... People forget the reason for the font change and that is to increase scalability of the game itself.

As a player who plays eve on a very large TV, the old font was unreadable at best. I would have to get 3 inches from the screen in order to vaguely make anything readable.

On my TV i set my UI scaling to 110% and it works perfect, while on my monitor I set it to 90% and it looks okay. Now I would however like to get the fonts even smaller on my monitors (non TV's) so having an 80 and 75% UI scale would be a good thing.

But in really the whole 'i hate this font!' is nothing new, we've hated the old font for years and now you hate the new font. CCP will never be able to cater to everyone, nor should they. With this patch the new font is all about UI scalability, and that functionality works surprisingly well. So great job on that CCP - much appreciated.

For all you whiners out there, scale your UI down to 90% and if the chat fonts are still too large click the a- button on your chat windows to reduce the size and it looks great. That is until CCP implements or decides if they implement different scalability options.

If that doesn't work for you and you still want to act like stupid insolent children feel free to visit the account management page and cancel your subscriptions and never play EVE again. Honestly, no one will miss you and your disappearance from the game will only make EVE a better world for the rest of us.

Thus far, great job on the patch CCP! Excited to see more of this new side from you, hope it continues in this positive way for many patches to come!!
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#93 - 2011-11-29 21:55:12 UTC
E Wan wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Vaaron Remar wrote:
I have great problems using the new UI/Font (screen resolution 1680 x 1050). Evil

The new font ist way better readable than the old one, yes BUT !!!:

Setting UI scale to 100% and any icon looks good and everything ist scaled okay except the font in the menus, it's way too big.
If I want to see more than 4 columns the overview-window takes easily 1/3 to 1/2 of the screen (font-size in settings changes as usual only context menu font size). Changing UI-size to 90% makes the overview-font more tolerable (but not good!) but buttons and column headers are so tiny you have to guess what's written there. The relation between UI-scale and font-size doesn't seem to fit. It's possible to change the font-size in chat-windows and in the context-menu why is it not possible in overview ??? It's one, if not THE most important window in the game. It has lots of useful columns you want to have at hand in fight but showing them in a reasonable way without blocking the whole screen isn't possible anymore.

Hope there will be some fix soon Cry


There's an option in the overview settings to use small font Blink


Is there such an option for all UI windows?


Not yet but might be added later.
keep asking for itTwisted

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Michael Turate
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#94 - 2011-11-29 21:55:51 UTC
As stated elsewhere, partially sighted player here finding the new font a massive improvement. YMMV.
E Wan
The Positron
#95 - 2011-11-29 21:56:31 UTC
Brujo Loco wrote:
Even though I know the change might be awful for some people, my 23 Inches LCD at 1920 over 3 feet from my leather couch and hence me say Thanx, I can finally read. No more squinting. I just hope this new font enables people to add diff types of it to the whole UI instead of just the new one. I for one would love ol'trusty arial to the ui.


Mate, no one says that change is awful, it's not playable on 15"... that is 8" diagonally smaller then your screen. With font like this, there is barely screen left to play or see new effect of warp/mwd etc...
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#96 - 2011-11-29 21:57:20 UTC
Salpun wrote:
E Wan wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Vaaron Remar wrote:
I have great problems using the new UI/Font (screen resolution 1680 x 1050). Evil

The new font ist way better readable than the old one, yes BUT !!!:

Setting UI scale to 100% and any icon looks good and everything ist scaled okay except the font in the menus, it's way too big.
If I want to see more than 4 columns the overview-window takes easily 1/3 to 1/2 of the screen (font-size in settings changes as usual only context menu font size). Changing UI-size to 90% makes the overview-font more tolerable (but not good!) but buttons and column headers are so tiny you have to guess what's written there. The relation between UI-scale and font-size doesn't seem to fit. It's possible to change the font-size in chat-windows and in the context-menu why is it not possible in overview ??? It's one, if not THE most important window in the game. It has lots of useful columns you want to have at hand in fight but showing them in a reasonable way without blocking the whole screen isn't possible anymore.

Hope there will be some fix soon Cry


There's an option in the overview settings to use small font Blink


Is there such an option for all UI windows?


Not yet but might be added later.
keep asking for itTwisted


Nope, just added for the overview because as that fine man said, it's one of the most important window in the game and some people display more columns than others there Smile

♥ EVE Brogrammer ♥ Team Five 0 ♥ @CCP_Punkturis ♥
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#97 - 2011-11-29 21:58:01 UTC
Ohanka wrote:
No, this is quite possibly the worst decision CCP has made. The old font was fine. if you had difficulty reading it maybe you need glasses or somthing.
No. This is quite possibly the best decision CCP has ever made. The old font was horrid, in particular when it came to distinguishing glyphs — one of the key functions a font needs to provide. Glasses were not an option since the design was inherently flawed.

In fact, the opposite is probably true: if you didn't spot the hideous issues the old font had, you probably needed glasses and/or was too used to different parts of the world being indistinguishable from each other.
Peter Drakon
Luminaire Traders and Builders
#98 - 2011-11-29 21:58:07 UTC
I realy like the new fonts, its much smoother and more readable.

Is it possible, that those who are complaining about it, changed the UI scale down to 90%, but have low resolution monitors with low graphical settings? If that "a" haveto fit into 5 pixels, it will never be nice...

Maybe a few screenshots from those who think its not readable would help to get to the bottom of this?

I play on 2048x1152 ith 125% - and its sooo very nice. :-)
Ohanka
#99 - 2011-11-29 21:59:07 UTC
E Wan wrote:
Brujo Loco wrote:
Even though I know the change might be awful for some people, my 23 Inches LCD at 1920 over 3 feet from my leather couch and hence me say Thanx, I can finally read. No more squinting. I just hope this new font enables people to add diff types of it to the whole UI instead of just the new one. I for one would love ol'trusty arial to the ui.


Mate, no one says that change is awful, it's not playable on 15"... that is 8" diagonally smaller then your screen. With font like this, there is barely screen left to play or see new effect of warp/mwd etc...


oh yes it is.

North Korea is Best Korea
E Wan
The Positron
#100 - 2011-11-29 21:59:18 UTC
ucntkilme wrote:
The font is fine... People forget the reason for the font change and that is to increase scalability of the game itself.

As a player who plays eve on a very large TV, the old font was unreadable at best. I would have to get 3 inches from the screen in order to vaguely make anything readable.

On my TV i set my UI scaling to 110% and it works perfect, while on my monitor I set it to 90% and it looks okay. Now I would however like to get the fonts even smaller on my monitors (non TV's) so having an 80 and 75% UI scale would be a good thing.

But in really the whole 'i hate this font!' is nothing new, we've hated the old font for years and now you hate the new font. CCP will never be able to cater to everyone, nor should they. With this patch the new font is all about UI scalability, and that functionality works surprisingly well. So great job on that CCP - much appreciated.

For all you whiners out there, scale your UI down to 90% and if the chat fonts are still too large click the a- button on your chat windows to reduce the size and it looks great. That is until CCP implements or decides if they implement different scalability options.

If that doesn't work for you and you still want to act like stupid insolent children feel free to visit the account management page and cancel your subscriptions and never play EVE again. Honestly, no one will miss you and your disappearance from the game will only make EVE a better world for the rest of us.

Thus far, great job on the patch CCP! Excited to see more of this new side from you, hope it continues in this positive way for many patches to come!!



Unbelievable comments... no one hates new font! It is a good thing, but for some people. For others game is not usable! How can't you understand this before answering? Can you hook up with 15" screen and see what we are all talking about. Lower resolution to approx 1200 or 1300 pixels width and see what we are talking.

Of course if you not using EVE as a chat application only this is a good change.