Missions & Complexes

So are there any level 5 missions in high sec? I could not find any, but there are so many factions who can check each one...

The ones I found are all in low sec and I just don't have time for messing around in low sec. Work and three kids has that effect... But I did want to see what the next level is like.

Iron

Open the agent finder.

Set faction to any.
Set corporation to any.
Set agent type to any.
Set solar system to any.
Set security status to high.
Uncheck show only available.
Move the agent level slide bar to 5.

All the agents have been filtered out, no lvl 5 agents on high sec of any type for any corp.

I would like to see a level 5 distribution agent take you about 40 jumps, require a freighter, and pass through lowsec to deliver in Jita.

Join an incursion fleet instead :D

Having LVL5s in high sec would be too unbalanced.

having a greater income requires having a greater risk.

Yeah by a huge margin.

why cant ccp simply adjust the rewards given to hi sec lv5s the same way they adjust the rewards for hi sec incursions. Then possibly using sleeper based AI and making sure that lv 5s could not be completed solo they could create a good team balance

well.. why not just run incursions then?

I'd rather see them fix scout incursions.

Would be much better if they were a bit tougher and required 4 solid ships instead of any 3-5 guys or 2 good ones.

Having a few buddies were you can jump into group play with ease (( Without wrecking your isk pr hour )) is sorely missing from Eve on the PvE side.

The problem with your theory is that L5's are already more difficult than a L4 so increased risk= increased reward.

The artificial risk is caused by putting the missions in low sec which makes the risk no where close to the reward.


What many of us want are missions of higher difficulty and higher reward than L4s.

Yes, I know there are incursions but they require a completely different level of time investment than missions. I've done incursions and they are fun, but most of the time I don't want to block off 2-3 hours just to have the chance of making good in incursions. There were times when I did site after site for two hours and made massive money. There were times where I spent an hour waiting for a group and ended up logging off without doing a single site. Incursions have their place, but they are not a replacement for harder missions.



The hardest part of L4 missions is probably the bonus room for Angel's Extravaganza. That room isn't all that hard for a single ship to handle of you kite. Multiple ships only have to sit there and shoot. The only way to make L4s require more skill is to artificially handicap your ship selection which isn't very fun. Why spend time training and saving for the next bigger ship when you have to go back and gimp yourself to get a challenge?

Honestly the rewards from the agents don't even need to go up. Just give me a mission like Blockade with nothing except BS's and maybe a carrier or a dreadnaught as the boss mob. Something that requires logi, severe amounts of tank, torpedoes for max DPS, and some ewar as well.

Give me a reason to want to build a fleet of diverse ships and diverse skills so I have to work to clear a room. Make me use tactics and strategy beyond dps/tank. I want something that tests me and L4s don't do that. On the other hand you can't point to L5s because now I'm no longer dealing with PVE I'm having to worry more about PVP and because of that I can't enjoy the PVE challenge I crave.