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Hi guys, I've got something I want to talk about. I think it's a large scale problem in EVE and I want to point out to people what's bad about it and why it's bad, but every time I try to explain, my words come out jumbled and the meaning isn't comprehensible to those who read it. So I'm asking you guys to read through this as patiently as you can and give me some pointers on how I can rephrase it so that my meaning is understood. I want it to be short and concise, yet cover my main points effectively and clearly.

Please ask lots of questions--I'd rather explain myself multiple times than have you assume I mean something and be wrong. You may make a few short comments on the validity of my post, but if you have strong feelings about it I'd ask that you please wait for the re-post in Features and Ideas discussion where I will be officially presenting it.

THE POST

It's about Capital ship jump drives. The skill Jump Drive Operation reduces jump capacitor cost, Jump Drive Calibration increases jump range, and Jump Fuel Conservation reduces jump fuel cost. The problem is in jumping in large groups of capital ships. Several of the larger nullsec alliances maintain sovereignty by jumping capital ships around in large groups to throw their power around and push invaders back. Smaller alliances in nullsec may be familiar with this because their capital pilots may join with larger friendly alliances together. The problem happens when capital pilots have to have well above minimum requirements to fly the capital ship, to be considered for flying with the group. A lot of capital pilots have the skills to make max distance jumps and spend very little time at each waypoint refueling and recharging, and it slows the group down a lot if they have to make more jumps and spend more time refueling the lower SP guys. It is also inefficient to split the capital ships into smaller groups as they have the greatest safety in one big group. You never want to endanger your capital ships.

So I want to engage the denizens of Features and Ideas discussion in tackling this topic and coming up with possible solutions. I have a few of my own though they aren't particularly good. I want people who read this to be able to understand the issue as it is--and I want to present it in as unbiased a way as possible. Note that I am taking the position that:

minimum skills to pilot a capital ship is not enough to get capital ship work

and

jump drive skills move capitals to split into groups while in practice they want to remain together

are problems. I feel that this is an opinion that people will tend to agree with, provided that
1.) I am correctly interpreting game mechanics and
2.) people reading this are on the same page as I am

In my final draft I want to structure the argument as such:

• First section: explain the problem/how jump drives work
• Second section: outline/review the problems
• Third section: outline what qualities a more functional system would have
• Fourth section: present my proposals

Of course the structure is subject to change so let me know all of your feelings on this please. I want to make this understandable so people don't jump off the gun at me thinking I'm saying something I'm not. Also, telling me that I'm wrong and there is no problem is perfectly welcome right here, as long as you explain why. Your help is much appreciated!!

Are you trying to sneak an F&I post into GD by asking the citizens of GD for help on formulating an F&I post?!?!?!?




This would be a first.

::popcorn::

I'm surprised he's asking the trolls for help with his homework

EVE trolls make good proofreaders. You guys are a cut above normal foum trolls.

As I'm not a Capital pilot, perhaps my naive question here is off the mark.

It seems to me that this is an operational issue to be managed by a fleet, not a mechanics problem. So while I can see an issue for a fleet, I can't connect this to an issue that actually needs to be fixed at all.

How is this an issue that needs fixing?

You're really asking for convenience, rather than a fix to a game problem as far as I can tell from your OP.

Ok I'll do my best to help with the logic, even though I do not have capital ship experience (yet).

. First section: explain the problem/how jump drives work
Jump Drives require 3 skills. The skill Jump Drive Operation reduces jump capacitor cost, Jump Drive Calibration increases jump range, and Jump Fuel Conservation reduces jump fuel cost.

. Second section: outline/review the problems
Noobs with lvl I skills jump shorter and slower then pros with lvl V skills.
In a fleet, if everybody jumped according to their max skills, the fleet would get separated. This is usually bad.

. Third section: outline what qualities a more functional system would have
Cap fleets should stick together at all times.

. Fourth section: present my proposals
Cap fleets should either:
a) not accept noobs, or
b) plan jumps taking into account the skill limitations of said noobs

Alternatively, CCP could remove Jump Drive Skills altogether because :effort to train:.


Hope it's clear now. Are you still determined to post this on F&I?

Read first two useless paragraphs, saw OP is in TEST, skipped the rest.

I actually believe this would be better suited in Ships and Modules instead of Features and Ideas.

But I'm asking for writing advice.

Please try to keep this on topic. If you want to discuss the issue, there will be plenty of time for that in the Features and Ideas Discussion forum.