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Drone Horde's... what were you thinking?
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Skizar
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2011-11-29 21:34:39 UTC
What in gods name were you thinking when you made it so that it is wave based rather than bunker triggered? You wait mark my words the amount of minerals supplied will drop from and the price shall rise!!!! I think Drone regions supply about 60-70% of the minerals in empire... poor poor idea and to think you were talking about "balancing" the anomalies.

There are two options from here 1. Change it back cause its not even know compared to the faction anomalies or 2. increase the amount dropped buy the drones to compensate the increase time it takes to kill them now and then salvage and loot...

Otherwise liking Crucible!!!

Will
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#2 - 2011-11-29 21:36:30 UTC
NO, drones should not drop minerals at all.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#3 - 2011-11-29 21:36:46 UTC
Skizar wrote:
You wait mark my words the amount of minerals supplied will drop from and the price shall rise!!!! I think Drone regions supply about 60-70% of the minerals in empire... poor poor idea and to think you were talking about "balancing" the anomalies.
So a larger portion of the minerals will be supplied by the profession that is supposed to provide minerals? Excellent.
Mara Tessidar
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2011-11-29 21:38:03 UTC
"Wahhh they fixed a broken anomaly that gave out way more money than it was supposed to and I didn't check the announced changes at any point during the prior three weeks"

At least, that's what I read when I saw the OP.
Zagam
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-11-29 21:39:39 UTC
Uh... so now drones are like the rest of eve? *gasp*

Stop complaining about your bot being broken.
Avila Cracko
#6 - 2011-11-29 21:39:54 UTC
No ******* way that mineral drops is increasing even by 0.00001%
Do not screw miners even more...
Even now miners earns that its just so under the border of mans dignity...

and yours minerals are not so important you know... everything was fine before drone poop...

so... remove mineral drops from drones completely...

truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Skizar
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2011-11-29 21:42:00 UTC
Mara Tessidar wrote:
"Wahhh they fixed a broken anomaly that gave out way more money than it was supposed to and I didn't check the announced changes at any point during the prior three weeks"

At least, that's what I read when I saw the OP.


Well we can always account for a goon to make a comment that has no merit or point in this thread...

No I think they should drop more to off-set the now massively increased time to complete one (this include killing then salvaging and looting) compared to a Gurista for example where you kill the spawn loot the faction if there is one then warp off... a lot faster.
Skizar
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2011-11-29 21:43:44 UTC
Avila Cracko wrote:
No ******* way that mineral drops is increasing even by 0.00001%
Do not screw miners even more...
Even now miners earns that its just so under the border of mans dignity...

and yours minerals are not so important you know... everything was fine before drone poop...

so... remove mineral drops from drones completely...


And you will be happy until no-one buys from you cause miners can not supply the amount of minerals that are required in eve... silly slap dash answer try again.
Angus Thermopollye
#9 - 2011-11-29 21:46:03 UTC
Basically, all I hear is that mining as a profession will maybe makes people who chose that profession some ISK again. I'm not seeing a problem.

It's grrrrrrrreat!
Avila Cracko
#10 - 2011-11-29 21:46:59 UTC
Skizar wrote:
Avila Cracko wrote:
No ******* way that mineral drops is increasing even by 0.00001%
Do not screw miners even more...
Even now miners earns that its just so under the border of mans dignity...

and yours minerals are not so important you know... everything was fine before drone poop...

so... remove mineral drops from drones completely...


And you will be happy until no-one buys from you cause miners can not supply the amount of minerals that are required in eve... silly slap dash answer try again.



khm... learn to read...

Quote:
and yours minerals are not so important you know... everything was fine before drone poop...

you know... "your" minerals are here for a lot shorter time then mining... mining was here from beginning... and EVE had enough minerals and without drone poop...

truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Angus Thermopollye
#11 - 2011-11-29 21:47:43 UTC
Skizar wrote:
Avila Cracko wrote:
No ******* way that mineral drops is increasing even by 0.00001%
Do not screw miners even more...
Even now miners earns that its just so under the border of mans dignity...

and yours minerals are not so important you know... everything was fine before drone poop...

so... remove mineral drops from drones completely...


And you will be happy until no-one buys from you cause miners can not supply the amount of minerals that are required in eve... silly slap dash answer try again.


You do understand the concept of supply and demand right? They'll have to by the minerals.

It's grrrrrrrreat!
Avila Cracko
#12 - 2011-11-29 21:49:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Avila Cracko
miners invested millions and millions of SP and time in mining skills... and they cant do anything else with that skills but mine...
and ppl that invested skills in shooting go shooting and leave minerals to the ppl that can do only that, mine, and that are living only from that minerals...

truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Jita Alt666
#13 - 2011-11-29 21:49:19 UTC
In 2010 I did a drone horde in under 1 minute 30 seconds. Knew they needed to be fixed then - glad they are now.
KFenn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2011-11-29 21:51:21 UTC
Tanya Powers wrote:
NO, drones should not drop minerals at all.

This.

Skizar wrote:
Avila Cracko wrote:
No ******* way that mineral drops is increasing even by 0.00001%
Do not screw miners even more...
Even now miners earns that its just so under the border of mans dignity...

and yours minerals are not so important you know... everything was fine before drone poop...

so... remove mineral drops from drones completely...


And you will be happy until no-one buys from you cause miners can not supply the amount of minerals that are required in eve... silly slap dash answer try again.


You're an idiot. Don't you know how supply and demand works? If demand increases, then more people will mine. So what, mining now fills it's intended role and gunmining isn't that important.

How dare the game work in a way that supports many gameplay styles!?

Commanding Officer of the Treacle Tart Brigade
Vincent Gaines
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#15 - 2011-11-29 21:52:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Vincent Gaines
Skizar wrote:
Mara Tessidar wrote:
"Wahhh they fixed a broken anomaly that gave out way more money than it was supposed to and I didn't check the announced changes at any point during the prior three weeks"

At least, that's what I read when I saw the OP.


Well we can always account for a goon to make a comment that has no merit or point in this thread...

No I think they should drop more to off-set the now massively increased time to complete one (this include killing then salvaging and looting) compared to a Gurista for example where you kill the spawn loot the faction if there is one then warp off... a lot faster.

And you're a botting drone Russian. What's your point?


Dronelands have killed mining, and cause massive inflation.

Not a diplo. 

The above post was edited for spelling.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#16 - 2011-11-29 21:53:10 UTC
Skizar wrote:
And you will be happy until no-one buys from you cause miners can not supply the amount of minerals that are required in eve.
Sure they can. There's just no reason for them to, because the drone regions ruin the entire profession. Also, plenty of people will buy from him, no matter how little he supplies… in fact, even more people will buy from him if the supply drops, so your logic is a bit… odd.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2011-11-29 21:58:46 UTC
Zagam wrote:
Stop complaining about your bot being broken.
Sezdro
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-11-29 22:23:22 UTC
Everyone keeps complaining about drone alloys, and thus minerals, coming out of the drone regions. Ok, maybe it is causing lower mineral prices for you guys in high-sec, I imagine that's irritating.

BUT, when looking at all of the other 0.0 regions, you see that the drone regions have just been nerfed in terms of potential isk generation in comparison to any other 0.0 region that doesn't have drones. We don't get bounties, item drops worth anything(certainly no faction drops), exploration sites, and the salvage is crap. If you nerf hordes I think we should be compensated some other way.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#19 - 2011-11-29 22:31:41 UTC
Sezdro wrote:
BUT, when looking at all of the other 0.0 regions, you see that the drone regions have just been nerfed in terms of potential isk generation in comparison to any other 0.0 region that doesn't have drones. We don't get bounties, item drops worth anything(certainly no faction drops), exploration sites, and the salvage is crap. If you nerf hordes I think we should be compensated some other way.
Don't worry. They're thinking about nuking alloys completely and replace them with something else.
Avila Cracko
#20 - 2011-11-29 22:45:18 UTC
Sezdro wrote:
Everyone keeps complaining about drone alloys, and thus minerals, coming out of the drone regions. Ok, maybe it is causing lower mineral prices for you guys in high-sec, I imagine that's irritating.

BUT, when looking at all of the other 0.0 regions, you see that the drone regions have just been nerfed in terms of potential isk generation in comparison to any other 0.0 region that doesn't have drones. We don't get bounties, item drops worth anything(certainly no faction drops), exploration sites, and the salvage is crap. If you nerf hordes I think we should be compensated some other way.



ppl are not against your income...
ppl are against that you get your income by stealing income from other group of ppl that invested so much more in their profession and cant do anything else with that skill - only mine... and then CCP implement drone regions and give minerals to ppl that did not invest anything in it... and that ppl can with that same skills do many many things in game... pew pew skills are used for everything... mining only for mining... and you are stealing mining from miners too...
and what miners can do?
forget about 20-40millions SP invested in it???
well... we will not play that way...

we want that we miners and you ppl in drone regions earn isk with skills that we have...
and for that minerals must be removed from drones.

truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
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