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Armor Repairers and Shield Boosters charts
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m3talc0re X
The Motley Crew of Disorder
The Gorram Shiney Alliance
#1 - 2014-03-10 21:39:14 UTC
I don't know how many people will be interested in this, but I thought I would share it anyway. I made a spreadsheet for comparing armor repairers and another for shield boosters. More data may be added, but I'm not sure I'll had the different meta versions of them, unless it's explicitly requested. And any other ideas for data to add? I'm thinking about putting the data in for how they'll operate with a ship bonused to them, also.

Shield Boosters - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhJLofdO5uLndGJqMjU1UFpkY29LZ1FuSWdFOFB1cXc&usp=sharing

Armor Repairers - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhJLofdO5uLndE5sTlY3Ni0yOGI0aTJnb2xoUW5iQVE&usp=sharing
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#2 - 2014-03-10 21:55:11 UTC
i've worked on shield booster efficiency so many times i've started to think i have them all down-pat. All you need to know is that all small and medium deadspace shield boosters are OP as ****, and gist L and XL boosters are as well, although particularly the XL ones. Literally the numbers make no sense, ESPECIALLY when compared with armor reppers. Armor repping is more cap efficient generally, but all deadspace armor reppers progress naturally in performance increases. Same for PIth L/XL boosters. All the other deadspace bosters get wtf numbers starting at the C-type, surpassing even teh best deadspace armor reps for efficiency (when armor is as a rule, more efficient). Fozzie had a chance to rebalance these when looking at active modules, instead he just left everything mostly the same, but he also made the DG shield boosters worse than their t2 counterparts, when they used to be better.

You're missing b-types.

Dread guristas and domination boosters. They are not identical to the CN versions.

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unidenify
Deaf Armada
#3 - 2014-03-11 16:02:06 UTC
I wonder, with Crystal affect Small to XL SB but not Capital. is it more effective for shield tank capital to run 2 Pith over Capital?
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-03-11 16:41:00 UTC
If they're OP why aren't they showing up on more loss mails? Or was this a secret till now?
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#5 - 2014-03-11 17:38:01 UTC
IIshira wrote:
If they're OP why aren't they showing up on more loss mails? Or was this a secret till now?


Because they are expensive and mostly used on blingy PVE ships.

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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#6 - 2014-03-11 18:06:07 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
IIshira wrote:
If they're OP why aren't they showing up on more loss mails? Or was this a secret till now?


Because they are expensive and mostly used on blingy PVE ships.



That plus ASBs, which give a bursty tank roughly equivalent to a Pith B for a fraction of the cost. When you're looking for pure burst ASB is still a better option for almost no isk.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-03-11 20:05:32 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
IIshira wrote:
If they're OP why aren't they showing up on more loss mails? Or was this a secret till now?


Because they are expensive and mostly used on blingy PVE ships.


So they're pretty much only a threat to NPC's lol
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-03-11 20:07:44 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
IIshira wrote:
If they're OP why aren't they showing up on more loss mails? Or was this a secret till now?


Because they are expensive and mostly used on blingy PVE ships.



That plus ASBs, which give a bursty tank roughly equivalent to a Pith B for a fraction of the cost. When you're looking for pure burst ASB is still a better option for almost no isk.

Yea I don't see anyone using a deadspace booster over an ASB. A few hundred million cheaper and better to boot!
God's Apples
Wilderness
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#9 - 2014-03-11 23:21:40 UTC
pith b-type XLSB is only 75 mill or so and boosts harder than XLASB. Ya'll are just peasants. Medium SBs are super expensive because pve tengus use them.

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Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#10 - 2014-03-12 04:11:17 UTC
God's Apples wrote:
pith b-type XLSB is only 75 mill or so and boosts harder than XLASB. Ya'll are just peasants. Medium SBs are super expensive because pve tengus use them.


On certain fits yeah a Pith B-Type XLSB would be superior to an XLASB, but good luck running it under neuts, while a double XLASB fit laughs at neuts.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#11 - 2014-03-12 20:54:01 UTC
God's Apples wrote:
pith b-type XLSB is only 75 mill or so and boosts harder than XLASB. Ya'll are just peasants. Medium SBs are super expensive because pve tengus use them.


uh no. THey're super expensive because they have insane cap efficiency (viable on marauders pre-rubicon). C-types used to be in the 300m range, the only reason they're cheaper is that every hs explorer and their mom operates in caldari space). If they had the same progression as other modules (10% increased boost per meta level) no one would care that much. Its largely because of these modules that tengus tank as well as they do in pve. t2/faction booster pve tengus are pretty much a rarity, and that's because the t2 module is junk by comparison, not because every tengu is blinged out.

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Mnemosyne Gloob
#12 - 2014-03-12 21:23:24 UTC
Batelle wrote:
C-types used to be in the 300m range, the only reason they're cheaper is that every hs explorer and their mom operates in caldari space).


didnt they exclude medium deadspace boosters from the buff a couple patches ago? I am sure there was something to that effect.

It's not only the c-types tumbling down in price anyway (although they have had the steepest decline) - even a-types aren't worth half than what they used to be.

It is probably a combination of factors.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#13 - 2014-03-12 22:44:42 UTC
Batelle wrote:
God's Apples wrote:
pith b-type XLSB is only 75 mill or so and boosts harder than XLASB. Ya'll are just peasants. Medium SBs are super expensive because pve tengus use them.


uh no. THey're super expensive because they have insane cap efficiency (viable on marauders pre-rubicon). C-types used to be in the 300m range, the only reason they're cheaper is that every hs explorer and their mom operates in caldari space). If they had the same progression as other modules (10% increased boost per meta level) no one would care that much. Its largely because of these modules that tengus tank as well as they do in pve. t2/faction booster pve tengus are pretty much a rarity, and that's because the t2 module is junk by comparison, not because every tengu is blinged out.


950dps capstable doublepaint hamgu is quite the insane missioner for a 500mil pricetag.