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XavierVE
No Corporation for Old Spacemen
#61 - 2011-11-29 21:18:11 UTC
Biggest thing about the font is that it looks great one size down. So while it looks great in my chat windows, it looks terrible in every other window as I can't size the fonts down in the other windows.

Please give us a universial font sizing option that allows us to size down the font in the ships bay, items bay, overview, etc, etc. At 1920-1080, it looks fantastic just one size smaller.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#62 - 2011-11-29 21:19:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Tanya Powers
Ho I'm loving this forum ganking and double posting, really !!

grrrrrrr
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#63 - 2011-11-29 21:22:06 UTC
Archa4 Badasaz wrote:
Tanya Powers wrote:
I guess you guys need to take off your sunglasses or stop being drunk or smoking weed when you play Lol

Seems most problems come from you GC settings because just like Archa looks great for me, much better than old one.


Another problem:
what is with ammo indicator? how the hell is this better then the old one?

Most of things i read are the chat and reading in this font is really problematic...

IMG:
http://i.imgur.com/2yRG3.jpg



Maybe because I have 11/10 but I can perfectly read it. Have you already tested different graphic options IG or GC settings?

Because honestly for me it's really nice and I'm not playing on any sort of 512 gazillion inches screen.
Maybe, I really say maybe the issues come from tech ued on your screen vs card I don't really know, but I'm sure thre are differences with same GC settings from TFT, plasma and latest screen techs.

You should play a little bit with those GC settings or IG settings

EDIT: because I can !! - 1920-1080 usual settings for me on this screen looks great
Razin
The Scope
#64 - 2011-11-29 21:23:58 UTC
Archa4 Badasaz wrote:
WTF are you on?
Now tell me here is no difference:
http://i.imgur.com/7Hh3a.jpg

The RMB menu i can read no problems, it's nice and wide.
But in the overview the letters are so condensed, that is very hard to read it.
My main problem with the font it's very condensed. I looks like the normal font was streched vertically...

I was talking about the picture you quoted, which had the identical font to your overview (increased by 10%).

Give it a couple of days, you'll get used to it and wonder how you were ever able to live with the old font. And then CCP will change it again.
Shkolnica
#65 - 2011-11-29 21:26:25 UTC
I have to post in there.
font size/stile mess
Shotgun' Sara Cyanyde
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#66 - 2011-11-29 21:26:40 UTC
new font is headache inducing pls help us help you! listen when we tell you it's horrible.
Little Delicious
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#67 - 2011-11-29 21:27:38 UTC
As a graphic designer I'd just like to say:

Thank you CCP, this font is incredible. Can i get an address to which I can send congratulatory cookies for a job well done?
Archa4 Badasaz
Vangazhi
#68 - 2011-11-29 21:28:11 UTC
Razin wrote:
Archa4 Badasaz wrote:
Charlie Jacobson wrote:
Zanthosistine wrote:
Comments about how this looks "on your machine" would be a LOT more useful if you would care to take a moment to mention what hardware and graphics settings you are using.



This is how it looks on my rig at 1920x1080, high graphics, but no AA, with a UI scale of 110%: http://i.imgur.com/W4JpI.png
I use a 23,6" LED monitor and the size is just right. I have perfect vision and do not require glasses.


What the hell???
On mine it looks completely different:
1024x768, windowed, low graphics UI scale 100%
http://i.imgur.com/4PHAa.jpg

WTF are you on?? Those are identical except for the 10% size difference.


http://i.imgur.com/KtYyQ.jpg

And now You tell me, which one is easier to read. I manually changed size of font in chat window, now it looks very, very nice. But every other window - crap...
Vaaron Remar
Universal Suppliers Inc.
#69 - 2011-11-29 21:28:41 UTC
I have great problems using the new UI/Font (screen resolution 1680 x 1050). Evil

The new font ist way better readable than the old one, yes BUT !!!:

Setting UI scale to 100% and any icon looks good and everything ist scaled okay except the font in the menus, it's way too big.
If I want to see more than 4 columns the overview-window takes easily 1/3 to 1/2 of the screen (font-size in settings changes as usual only context menu font size). Changing UI-size to 90% makes the overview-font more tolerable (but not good!) but buttons and column headers are so tiny you have to guess what's written there. The relation between UI-scale and font-size doesn't seem to fit. It's possible to change the font-size in chat-windows and in the context-menu why is it not possible in overview ??? It's one, if not THE most important window in the game. It has lots of useful columns you want to have at hand in fight but showing them in a reasonable way without blocking the whole screen isn't possible anymore.

Hope there will be some fix soon Cry
Hra Neuvosto
Party Cat Enterprises
#70 - 2011-11-29 21:29:04 UTC
This new font is the only thing I loathe about this expansion.

Old font was much, much better. This one looks almost comical.
Nalia White
Tencus
#71 - 2011-11-29 21:29:14 UTC
Razin wrote:
Archa4 Badasaz wrote:
WTF are you on?
Now tell me here is no difference:
http://i.imgur.com/7Hh3a.jpg

The RMB menu i can read no problems, it's nice and wide.
But in the overview the letters are so condensed, that is very hard to read it.
My main problem with the font it's very condensed. I looks like the normal font was streched vertically...

I was talking about the picture you quoted, which had the identical font to your overview (increased by 10%).

Give it a couple of days, you'll get used to it and wonder how you were ever able to live with the old font. And then CCP will change it again.


i wish -.-

the whole text really looks like it got stretched vertically though like someone mentioned allready...

what really bugs me the most are the quantity numbers from stackable items though.

Syndicate - K5-JRD

Home to few, graveyard for many

My biggest achievement
Buzzmong
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2011-11-29 21:31:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Buzzmong
I don't have a problem with the font per se, but I do with it's size.

Specifically, I have a a problem with its size outside of the chatbox in normal windows: It's bigger and more spacious.

Great for readability (I didn't have a problem with 99% of the last font, only a couple of chars), but it's had a knock on effect of making the windows on my screen such as overview, info boxes etc... quite a lot bigger. Context menus are bigger, but that's less of an issue as they're only up on screen briefly.

The windows are now so much bigger due to the font that I now have quite a bit less information on them, especially on the overview, which is going to be quite a problem I feel.

For reference I'm playing on a 19" at 1280x1024, so I've got limited space. I've not got a widescreen, nor do I have the money to replace a perfectly working monitor on a whim.

Scaling the UI to 90% isn't a fix, as it shrinks everything and makes it look quite terrible (worse than the old font).

Is there a way we can have the option to revert to the old one, or at least a seperate font size choice for windows/overview?
Dave Holewka
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#73 - 2011-11-29 21:33:34 UTC
If at all possible, I would like to see an option to make the font size in the rest of the UI different, in particular smaller. The font seems larger by default, and I can't locate an option to decrease it. The larger font means that I have to make my overview etc. bigger so I can see the same amount of information, and that takes up more space on my screen. I'm happy with the size of the rest of the UI, so I don't want to scale it down.
TR4D3R4LT
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#74 - 2011-11-29 21:35:52 UTC
Shkolnica wrote:
So made it possible. Dont you have any programmers?


Next time programmers will be available is;

:18 months:

I dont know if I'm more astonished by the fact that there has to be serious programming effort to make even changing font size available or by the fact that they managed to get so many years without answering the demands to make it possible... Unless they claim eve font works by tiny *.gif images that they just arrange around...
Emiko P'eng
#75 - 2011-11-29 21:36:57 UTC
Much better font!

I use a 1280 x 1024 17in screen

with the UI at 100% everything is so much easier to read

Especially numbers where the decimal and the thousands separator are much clearer

Well done!
Earl Hazard
The Soul Society
Fraternity.
#76 - 2011-11-29 21:37:31 UTC
I really like the new font. Think it is a step in the right direction but obviously to be able to choose font type and size would be the best.
E Wan
The Positron
#77 - 2011-11-29 21:38:43 UTC
Little Delicious wrote:
As a graphic designer I'd just like to say:

Thank you CCP, this font is incredible. Can i get an address to which I can send congratulatory cookies for a job well done?



As a graphic designer you should take care of each and every customer. So for now lower your resolution to the 1330 pixels in width for example and try to play! As a graphic designer you should have one MacBook Pro 15" handy for any purposes and yous should check EVE there. Also you should know that letter spacing should be same no matter what size

This is huge step back. Everything in this patch is more then AWESOME but this simply makes game for us players on lower resolution impossible! Each and every irrelevant tab is now more then 40% enlarged.


+1 to either make font better visible on lower resolutions or make people able to choose between this new and old.
Valeroth Kyarmentari
Verdant Rampart
#78 - 2011-11-29 21:40:52 UTC
The new font is huring my eyes... (littleraly) I can't quite put my finger on it. I think it doesn't apear quite as sharp. Espeically having a hard time reading quantiies in my inventory.

It's not game breaking or anything, only it's not an improvement over the old one (but for different reasons).
Kewso
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#79 - 2011-11-29 21:41:26 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
Totally love the new font!!!

most the people whining were those using the font glitch for scamming numbers and letters look alike and like the font devblog mentioned it was a lot to do with scammers using font to trick people.

people will whine about anything that don't give them advantage :P

finally a font that you can easily distinguish every character alpha/numeric with a slight glance.

Thank you CCP

and ignore the others
Andramedae
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#80 - 2011-11-29 21:42:27 UTC
I can actually read the fonts for more than a minute without getting a headache!

Thx CCP, you made my game.