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Gurilla Tactics against the mega-alliances
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Sebero Sinak
Doomheim
#1 - 2011-11-29 19:01:26 UTC
Our little 2 man corp has been trying to annoy the nullsec alliances ( except AAA - quit shooting us will you ) and with todays expansion I see a wonderful new opportunity for little guys to be a thorn in thier beastly paws.

It involves the PI customs offices.

If 0.0 rates are the same as wormhole rates using the CCP supplied Interbus Customs Offices will cost the nullsec alliances about 170% tax rate ( 1020 isk per m3 of tier 2 product such as mechanical parts ).

These costs mean anyone who can will shoot the Interbus CO and put in thier own....which is vulnerable to attack.

They will want to use thier planets to make Pos Fuel mats, they will want Customs Offices to import mats because you just have to import some things. Shooting either thier Customs Office or the Interbus Office will preclude importing.

AFK ownership of large chunks of space means now the little guys have a chance to do small but real damage if I have read this change right.

If you see where i've got this all wrong please tell me ..cause i am getting so hot to start shooting Customs offices it hurts.
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#2 - 2011-11-29 19:50:49 UTC
people have been wanting these options forever and its something that has never been included in this game design.


The History of war is littered with small groups making small cuts on much larger forces and then disappearing into the night/desert/jungle/etc but its not here on EVE

It might take a while for your 2 man corp to kill one of those babies and the enemy may arrive before you finish it

raidable moon mining arrays is where its at. 
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Captain Mastiff
#3 - 2011-11-29 19:51:14 UTC
Sebero Sinak wrote:

If you see where i've got this all wrong please tell me ..cause i am getting so hot to start shooting Customs offices it hurts.


What is the HP on those things? I would expect an EveMail to go out to the owning corp to say the structure is under attack.
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
#4 - 2011-11-29 19:55:07 UTC
Now you just need to figure out a way to actually kill the tax offices .. they reinforce just like everything else in the broken space control part of Eve so unless you have a blob of your own to counter the reinforcement defense blob chances are your master plan will fail miserably.

Against an AFK alliance it might work though.
Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2011-11-29 20:12:10 UTC
Hirana Yoshida wrote:
Now you just need to figure out a way to actually kill the tax offices .. they reinforce just like everything else in the broken space control part of Eve so unless you have a blob of your own to counter the reinforcement defense blob chances are your master plan will fail miserably.

Against an AFK alliance it might work though.

getting blueballed on POCO timers will get old really fast
Sebero Sinak
Doomheim
#6 - 2011-11-29 20:24:54 UTC
Captain Mastiff wrote:


What is the HP on those things? I would expect an EveMail to go out to the owning corp to say the structure is under attack.


Ok, you brought me back to reality Customs Office Gantry has 10 mil shield HPs and shield recharge rate of 10k/s.

We have one recruit as crazy as us and with a couple more it's doable.

And as Florestan so eloquently put it - getting blueballed on POCO timers will get old really fast. ...How many times will they want to check reinforced CO's to find one guy in local in a cloaky smacktalking ?
Hiram Alexander
State Reprisal
#7 - 2011-11-29 20:27:24 UTC
Hirana Yoshida wrote:
Now you just need to figure out a way to actually kill the tax offices .. they reinforce just like everything else in the broken space control part of Eve so unless you have a blob of your own to counter the reinforcement defense blob chances are your master plan will fail miserably.

Against an AFK alliance it might work though.

Interbus POCO's don't reinforce, nor do they have anyone to notify, so for a while at least... 'hunting season is open'...
Sebero Sinak
Doomheim
#8 - 2011-11-29 21:05:46 UTC
With these changes to PI there is going to be an uproar similar to the Incarna one - across the board.

If you hate someone you need to strike NOW against there POCO's before CCP can nerf the changes .

Let the slaughter of the FRIGGIN CUSTOMS OFFICES begin !!!!
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#9 - 2011-11-29 21:08:08 UTC
This small little thing only means moar pee vee pee ! yay
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#10 - 2011-11-29 21:18:20 UTC
Sebero Sinak wrote:
Our little 2 man corp has been trying to annoy the nullsec alliances ( except AAA - quit shooting us will you ) and with todays expansion I see a wonderful new opportunity for little guys to be a thorn in thier beastly paws.

It involves the PI customs offices.

If 0.0 rates are the same as wormhole rates using the CCP supplied Interbus Customs Offices will cost the nullsec alliances about 170% tax rate ( 1020 isk per m3 of tier 2 product such as mechanical parts ).

These costs mean anyone who can will shoot the Interbus CO and put in thier own....which is vulnerable to attack.

They will want to use thier planets to make Pos Fuel mats, they will want Customs Offices to import mats because you just have to import some things. Shooting either thier Customs Office or the Interbus Office will preclude importing.

AFK ownership of large chunks of space means now the little guys have a chance to do small but real damage if I have read this change right.

If you see where i've got this all wrong please tell me ..cause i am getting so hot to start shooting Customs offices it hurts.




Wormholes will put you DEEP into 0.0, way beyond the gate camps and gank pipelines. Response time will be long, and without the WTFPWNMOBILE supercaps botting rats in every system, you may well be successful in your endeavors.

Good luck. And may we never meet (because you'll probably shoot me too P )

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Janos Saal
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2011-11-29 21:20:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Janos Saal
Nullsec NPC offices have taxes substantially lower than highsec, and the playerowned ones will be reinforceable and can have even lower tax rates, so please; feel free to clean up our trash for us. It's about all you're good for.

EVE is dead
Jita Alt666
#12 - 2011-11-29 21:22:46 UTC
A corp capable of fielding 5-6 Dreads could have great fun with this.
Sebero Sinak
Doomheim
#13 - 2011-11-29 21:28:41 UTC
Janos Saal wrote:
Nullsec NPC offices have taxes substantially lower than highsec, and the playerowned ones will be reinforceable and can have even lower tax rates, so please; feel free to clean up our trash for us. It's about all you're good for.


I consider being insulted by goonswarm a compliment. Hopefully we will"be coming to a system near you " soon.
Crias Taylor
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-11-29 21:32:03 UTC
Jita Alt666 wrote:
A corp capable of fielding 5-6 Dreads could have great fun with this.

If you want to lose them sure go ahead. 
Andramedae
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2011-11-29 21:37:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Andramedae
One funny thing about CO's is that there are no defences aside from inherent passives (no guns, etc). A small covops band could happily cause immense havoc by running around tagging offices in multiple offices, throw away cyno alts lighting up as the tagging goes on, whilst the main target gets taken down by a fly-by dread fleet.

So much more fun than trying to tag a series of POS'. Lol
Tainted Karma
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-11-29 21:39:24 UTC
gorilla or guerrilla ?
Warzon3
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2011-11-29 21:43:59 UTC
Sebero Sinak wrote:
Captain Mastiff wrote:


What is the HP on those things? I would expect an EveMail to go out to the owning corp to say the structure is under attack.


Ok, you brought me back to reality Customs Office Gantry has 10 mil shield HPs and shield recharge rate of 10k/s.

We have one recruit as crazy as us and with a couple more it's doable.

And as Florestan so eloquently put it - getting blueballed on POCO timers will get old really fast. ...How many times will they want to check reinforced CO's to find one guy in local in a cloaky smacktalking ?


wait you do small scale stuff to annoy people and you call yourself crazy?

send me an evemail will you it sounds like what I'm looking for :D
Aggressive Nutmeg
#18 - 2011-11-29 21:46:11 UTC
Tainted Karma wrote:
gorilla or guerrilla ?

They're planning on going ape?

Seriously, I like the OP's idea.

Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana.
Sebero Sinak
Doomheim
#19 - 2011-11-29 22:14:44 UTC
Due to Test Alliance's recent attack on Chribba we have chosen to attack one of thier systems.

This attack in my mind is "jeesus h christ, why do we have to mess with them and not DRF. -

To Test ......Do something useful
XavierVE
No Corporation for Old Spacemen
#20 - 2011-11-29 22:26:23 UTC
Ran into you guys while we were camping geminate looking for Russians to shoot, I believe you guys are crazy enough to try this.