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So one player can gank me in Highsec and not get Concorded?

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Bi-Mi Lansatha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#81 - 2014-03-11 07:46:29 UTC
Zabrina wrote:
Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:
Zabrina wrote:
...225m lost total in cargo and ship...

Iteron Mark V
Security: 0.5
Damage Taken: 1706
Shocked

Why would you fly something like this?


Because after a decade of on again off again playing, I'm still a noob care bear and I like to AFK haul. It's ******** I know..
The T1 were adjusted awhile back, with some of them getting really nice adjustments to tank. The Mark V wasn't one of those. I often fly to Jita or Amaar with 200M ISK in cargo and get scanned a lot, but only once did they actually try to gank me... it didn't go well for them.

My opinion, the Mark V is just a gank waiting to happen.
Bi-Mi Lansatha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2014-03-11 08:20:53 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
...
As a returning player they are probably unaware how badly the Itty V was nerfed in terms of tank in recent patches and how common T1 ganking has become :D


T1 ganking hasnt changed and you could always kill them this easily if they fit a very poor tank with a full rack of cargo expanders.

I primarily fly the Epithal or Badger while moving stuff around Highsec. They are tanked; and while the Epithal is the weakest... it still has about 25K - 30K hitpoints (overheat). As long as I am not too stupid in what I carry, I might be scanned, but only on extreme rare occasion will anyone try to gank me.

I hate to say it, but there seem to be a lot of players out there are giving the gankers very easy and lucrative targets.... which make my ships less attractive and less likely to be ganked.

Schadenfreude.
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#83 - 2014-03-11 08:24:36 UTC
Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:

My opinion, the Mark V is just a gank waiting to happen.

Mainly because so many still regard the Itty V as the go to ship for moving stuff around.

And therefore people stash 100M+ loads into an indy with papertank.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#84 - 2014-03-11 11:22:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Hasikan Miallok
Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
...
As a returning player they are probably unaware how badly the Itty V was nerfed in terms of tank in recent patches and how common T1 ganking has become :D


T1 ganking hasnt changed and you could always kill them this easily if they fit a very poor tank with a full rack of cargo expanders.

I primarily fly the Epithal or Badger while moving stuff around Highsec. They are tanked; and while the Epithal is the weakest... it still has about 25K - 30K hitpoints (overheat). As long as I am not too stupid in what I carry, I might be scanned, but only on extreme rare occasion will anyone try to gank me.

I hate to say it, but there seem to be a lot of players out there are giving the gankers very easy and lucrative targets.... which make my ships less attractive and less likely to be ganked.

Schadenfreude.


I presume you mean Nereus. The Epithal is the Gallante hauler with the PI hold.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#85 - 2014-03-11 11:28:27 UTC
Zabrina wrote:
I haven't played for years and I've been back a week turning mu 3 tunes, emptying obsolete hangers and ramping up production on with my T2 BPOs when I was solo ganked by by 1 player with sentry drones. Is this the new OP? Tto rub it in, they didn't get concorded. I though people are always concorded in empire?

About 225m lost total in cargo and ship and I dropped around 150m items / gear.

The only thing I'm sad about is I just turned in LP for about 50k rounds of faction medium projectile (Fusion M) ( Fusion S)


Victim: Zabrina
Corp: Half Moon Bay Ventures
Alliance: Unknown
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Iteron Mark V
System: Colelie
Security: 0.5
Damage Taken: 1706

Involved parties:

Name: Nordika (laid the final blow)
Security: -0.20
Corp: Ganked And T Bagged
Alliance: None
Faction: None
Ship: Vexor
Weapon: Garde II
Damage Done: 1706

Destroyed items:



A. Untanked industrial - check.
B. Expensive cargo (aka loot pinata) - check.
C. Being ganked in 0.5 - check.
D. Post on the forums about it aint fair - check.

Thread delivers.
Leave happy and satisfied.

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Bi-Mi Lansatha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#86 - 2014-03-11 11:36:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Bi-Mi Lansatha
Hasikan Miallok wrote:

I presume you mean Nereus. The Epithal is the Gallante hauler with the PI hold.
I make Nanite Paste and move around lots of PI.

The Epithal is a nice ship.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#87 - 2014-03-11 12:06:38 UTC
Zabrina wrote:
Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:
Zabrina wrote:
...225m lost total in cargo and ship...

Iteron Mark V
Security: 0.5
Damage Taken: 1706
Shocked

Why would you fly something like this?



Because after a decade of on again off again playing, I'm still a noob care bear and I like to AFK haul. It's ******** I know. If there is a kill mail archive, I think 5 years ago I was ganked afk hauling 900,000,000 ISK in datacores.

I wonder if an MTU will self deploy from your cargo if somebody ganks you. Have it loot your wreck and cargo before they can get to it. lol.


So in all that time, you havent learned a damn thing.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#88 - 2014-03-11 12:08:54 UTC
Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:
Zabrina wrote:
There must be something about sentry drones interaction in highsec , concord, and PVP.


Due to the horrible bugs in the drone coding, oftentimes they will continue to fight even after their controlling ship has been destroyed.

Zabrina wrote:
my T2 BPOs


And this is why you were ganked. Forget everything else, that was their target. The value of a T2 BPO is immeasurable. CCP has been trying to eliminate them from the game for years. To that end, it would not surprise me that CONCORD managed to mysteriously not show up when a ship carrying T2 BPOs was attacked. What a coincidence! And I am guessing that they did not drop, either, correct?

Items that the CCP wishes to see destroyed always find a way to become so. For reference, look up the drop rates for PLEX (i.e. 0%)


Do you have your own tinfoil factory to supply yourself witb hats.

Heads up, PLEX do drop. Too bad I cant post killmails to proof it.

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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#89 - 2014-03-11 19:13:52 UTC
Aramatheia wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Oh well if you were afk hauling, that's a problem. You will need a permit and abide by the Code. You can learn more at www.minerbumping.com


i dont think theres a code or a permit for afk hauling - such an activity is wrong on every front lol

There isn't. However, buying a permit and following the code would stop him from AFK hauling.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#90 - 2014-03-11 19:21:18 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
...
As a returning player they are probably unaware how badly the Itty V was nerfed in terms of tank in recent patches and how common T1 ganking has become :D


T1 ganking hasnt changed and you could always kill them this easily if they fit a very poor tank with a full rack of cargo expanders.

I primarily fly the Epithal or Badger while moving stuff around Highsec. They are tanked; and while the Epithal is the weakest... it still has about 25K - 30K hitpoints (overheat). As long as I am not too stupid in what I carry, I might be scanned, but only on extreme rare occasion will anyone try to gank me.

I hate to say it, but there seem to be a lot of players out there are giving the gankers very easy and lucrative targets.... which make my ships less attractive and less likely to be ganked.

Schadenfreude.


I presume you mean Nereus. The Epithal is the Gallante hauler with the PI hold.


I'll continue to call them badger II and Iteron III
Real Serious PVPer
Doomheim
#91 - 2014-03-11 19:23:11 UTC
In space, there is always just one outcome- Death by PVP.

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Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#92 - 2014-03-11 19:37:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Lugia3
Zabrina wrote:
What's in store for my Obelisk, Orca?


Nothing, if you don't carry 3 billion ISK in them. If your T1 indy, tanked or not, is loaded with over 100 millions worth, it's worth ganking. Fly smart, and don't put all your eggs in one basket.

Also, CONCORD gives vengeance, not protection.

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Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
Rote Kapelle
#93 - 2014-03-11 20:21:07 UTC
Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:
Zabrina wrote:
There must be something about sentry drones interaction in highsec , concord, and PVP.


Due to the horrible bugs in the drone coding, oftentimes they will continue to fight even after their controlling ship has been destroyed.

Zabrina wrote:
my T2 BPOs


And this is why you were ganked. Forget everything else, that was their target. The value of a T2 BPO is immeasurable. CCP has been trying to eliminate them from the game for years. To that end, it would not surprise me that CONCORD managed to mysteriously not show up when a ship carrying T2 BPOs was attacked. What a coincidence! And I am guessing that they did not drop, either, correct?

Items that the CCP wishes to see destroyed always find a way to become so. For reference, look up the drop rates for PLEX (i.e. 0%)


Holy crap nuggets.
If CCP wanted to DESTROY ALL T2 BPOS RAAAAGH, how the hell would CONCORD not showing up change anything in a gank scenario? Either way, the afk hauler dies. What, does CCP private convo gankers to say that ganking that one hauler won't invoke CONCORD because of what it has in the cargo?

Because if so, someone needs to give CCP a medal.

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Nordika
State War Academy
Caldari State
#94 - 2014-03-12 18:10:40 UTC
Hehe seems to be some confusion in this post.

Concord did show up and i did die - there was no kill rights. More than happy to send him the KM if he wants.

There was no tech 2 BPO's i think they were just being mentioned although if he is going to fly around with those I would appreciate if he lets me know first. Big smile

If he got podded wasnt by me.