Crime & Punishment

So, I thought I would just add my story to the list of people that lost isk to Erotica. I'm not going to go into a huge long rant or anything, just air my sadness at the whole affair, and my own stupidity. I'm fairly new to EVE, so I'll just take this as a early lesson in the ways of it. Mistakes are human, but they are opportunities to learn from.

I read around that Erotica 1 was actually legit. So I read her rules (or at least I thought I did, I'll get into that) and sent Erotica 700m Isk for a 3x back. This was within her profiles guidelines as a legit number, and also realized it would be my last since I couldn't double the amount received on another play and be a donor. I got a convo invite from her, which I accepted, and they started talking about the bonus round, which I read earlier got... a little creepy.

They said they would 5x my isk instead of 3x it, but that I had to give api info and join their teamspeak. This confused me, and I thought at first this wasn't part of her bio, so I simply asked for my 3x, not wishing to participate in a bonus round. Being the title of the chat was "Glory Hole" that didn't bode well for the non-creepy aspect. The pressure from others in the chat was immense, they wanted me to badly do this bonus round, which again I said I wasn't interested in. When I mentioned the whole affair wasn't in her rules, they said it was, and that is when I realized my mistake. She purposely puts the info about being the 100th and OBLIGATORY bonus round way off the normal part of the bio where you have to scroll way way down. Quite misleading since it wasn't in plain view. That's when they start demanding your API keys, and getting you in Teamspeak.

Here is my thing, I play games to get away from real life. I've got a stressful enough job irl as is, and I don't typically like irl intrusions in my serious business games (see what I did there?). In no other games do I ever just casually tell people my alts either, I prefer to keep them separate from each other. I like my privacy thank you. Same goes with TS, it breaks the immersion of the game for me.

So when the demand to get on TS and API keys came out, I decided to bail. They told me I would lose the initial 700m if I did so. That did hurt, was a lot for myself. But I'll get over it. Do I think Erotica 1 is somebody you should have faith in? No, I don't, because I think the whole bonus round and trying to hide that part of the rules, while then demanding other things that weren't in her bio at all (api, ts) means this is probably where she makes most of her money. Did I break any of her rules? I suppose in the broadest sense of the word I did so, she got to keep my 700m. Do I really know for sure that I was the 100th person? Nope.

Again, I stress this isn't a complaint, or a rant, just a series of events as I recall them. It's also a warning to any others that may think to try using Erotica 1. I was foolish, and I paid the price.

Also, internet spaceships is some serious damn business don't you know? Losing some isk is one thing, compromising my irl self is much much worse, which I wasn't willing to do.

Damn, this got long didn't it? Oh well. lmao

TLDR Version: I made a 700m donation to Erotica 1 when I didn't want to give out my API info and go into a TS, which isn't in her bio. I'm also an idiot.

No, you aren't. I've been told many times that if anything, I tend to over research items. I'd call this whole scenario the result of a momentary lack of sanity. It happens to the best of us, and it is what Erotica preys upon for her scam.

Best of luck to you if you decide to give her isk to double. Just watch out for any rules not listed in her Bio, and pray you found "EVERYTHING" via that google search. I for one think you'll just lose your isk though. After all, he has a vested interest in not paying you.

I wish that I could have been in the TS to hear it live. Live comedy is always much better than recorded. I think the OP should read the bio of Erotica 1 and give it another try. It will work out better next time. Don't give up :) Try again!!!

It never ceases to amaze me how people can be so ignorant.

She is this games most famous and renowned lSK doubler, yet people still seem to mess up the instructions. I mean, she does the bonus round with other past winners of the bonus round in the channel, so all you have to do is ask them for tips and advice if you're struggling.

I guess we'll just live as the lucky few who were able to show complete faith.

Thread topic: Ero 1 pulling the worst scams ever. How right they were. BANNED and good riddance.

Erotica 1 will be back, just like James Bond.

Because stupid idiots and their ISK are soon parted, in various and interesting ways.

People have to realze it doesen't matter if laws or the EULA were broken. CCP is not NOT a public institution and they can ban who ever, when ever they want without any reasoning. So stop acting like advocats of free speech cuz that is not the issue here.

CCP also have to protect themselfs. People come to play EvE because they read of battles like in BR in the main stream media. Of course some are aware of the scams in game some aren't but the scam was not the issue. The story snowballed and it just takes a website like KOTAKU or RPS or any of the Game Youtubers with 500 000 subs to start a major shitstorm no company wants.

I'm glad about the ban, even if the victim is over it. It could have taken a much uglyr turn. I have seen it before back in the days of UO/EQ how much damage a certain amount of public humilation can do to a person. There is a certain line that shouldn't be crossed.

Ok people, this thread had run its course and is only brought up again to have side discussion on a topic that has been/is thoroughly debated elsewhere.

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