Wormholes

Enjoyed listening to this.

On the afk cloaking issue...Is it possible to have 2 separate mechanics for known and wormhole space?

E.g make it possible to somehow pinpoint a cloaked ship in Known space but not possible in a wormhole.

I am not saying this should be implemented but it seems to me that what gets implemented into known space has a knock on effect for wormholes, take the scan overlay for example. Why cant the overlay work in a different way in wormholes where a signature does not show for 5 minutes or does not show up at all until probed down.

Maybe this is just not possible or would be a programming nightmare i have no idea. We already have verifying mechanics from wormhole systems to known space like local,sov and cyno's why is it that cloaking and the scanner overlay is different?

I tried to bring up some ideas on how CCP could help open up major improvements for wh-space mapping tools...

1. Bookmark linking (and JS IGB hooks)
2. IGB header for nearest celestial object (CCP removed - was in old IGB)
3. Drag-n-Drop to and from IGB (CCP removed - was in old IGB)

* Bookmark linking and JS IGB hooks would allow 3rd party WH mapping tools to be able to share bookmarks - possibly adding ability to right-click warp to bookmark from browser. This would open up millions of opportunities for 3rd party tools to handle sharing for bookmarks instead of just adding Alliance BMs or higher cap. (CCP already have BM ids which can be found when trying to link BMs now)

* Nearest celestial object IGB header would allow 3rd party tools to know to a better degree where a pilot is. This could translate to being able to update signature IDs after DT because we would be able to log where signatures are roughly in a system. Or better could be used by 3rd party fleet tools.

* Drag-n-Drop in/out of IGB would make putting info into 3rd party tools much faster and also getting that data back out. A perfect example would be a fitting tool with the ability to drop a fit from EVE into browser and then back out again later. Could even combine this idea with the BM linking idea to quickly and easily share BMs.

These are some ideas I think would have the biggest impact on how 3rd party tools can help players where CCP hasn't been able to give attention to yet. I know I'm new to the scene for 3rd party tools but I am very driven to push this area of EVE. Would love to share more ideas if interested.

CCP should WANT us to sit still for hours at a time and not do anything. They make money and their systems are taxed very little, while we think we're enjoying ourselves.

Besides, Nullsec is the safest area of space. Removing the ability to sit for periods of time while cloaked, potentially AFK or potentially stalking your targets, makes it even safer. Next thing you know, people will be asking for sites to spawn with wrecks pre-salvaged and delivered to your hangar in your station, so you don't have to go out into the evil, scary space place. It ties into ISK faucet as well, which anyone with a clue can see is opened up full blast.

That's what the nullbears are complaining. They wouldn't mind if they were "active" cloakies, since then you are playing, but if you just sit in system, they can't take the chance of what might happen... So basically they want a way to know if you are active or not so they know when to pos up

Threads like this are why everyone hates politics...

The most profitable sites in W-space are just as vulnerable as the most profitable sites in Nullsec, and you typically have MUCH more ISK on the line in W-space than in Nullsec, where a single carrier can rat in peace for days at a time before seeing a hostile. In addition to that, mining sites in W-space are just as vulnerable as mining sites in Nullsec for anyone masochistic enough to mine. The above comments mean nothing and accomplish nothing.

What you neglected to mention, while throwing words at the wind, was the fact that Nullsec tells you when someone is coming by happily posting their name in the local chat list, whereas you only see someone in W-space if you can catch the probes on dscan or the hole happens to open up within dscan range and you catch the scout decloaked after jumping in.

The largegst issue with Nullsec is that while it is in fact safer than empire and much safer than W-space, they still don't "feel" safe enough. They still don't have enough of an illusion of safety. If most people knew just how many visitors and stalkers were in a W-space system at any given time, they'd run away screaming like a scared little girl and never come back. But they don't, so they have an illusion that it is safe until directly threatened.

Take away the free local chat intelligence tool, and you will give Nullsec what the Nullbears want: the illusion of safety.

Thank you for informing us all how eggs are sucked, though largely I agree with most of what you said.
CCP wont remove local to cater to null bears, but hey, more cap kills for us if they do.

The meeting was a bit painful at times when everyone tried talking over each other and did seem to lack a direction, but it beats reading article after article about the nullsec donut complaining about other parts of the donut. In fact maybe the challenge for the next one would be not mentioning nullsec at all D: ??

The name is Ali Aras and she's running again for CSM 9.

That breaks what clock mechanics are now and may solve one issue but create a problem that will resonate more then just in wspace. They wouldn't do that.