EVE General Discussion

e.g. Macrotransactions.

P2-use macros.

I'm looking forward to being invited for the interview after this thorough application.

lol dude, does a capsuleer wearing a pirate costume rustles your jimmies?

well, as ar as i i'm concerned, they can sell whatever they want for $$ as long as it doesn't give an advantage, I.E cloth, tattoes, ships skin etc.....

but whatever they sell, it shall not be affecting one's abilitys....or hell will be unleashed once again

You people are so ******* paranoid.

Nope. Not worried. Monetisation could mean anything. It could mean more merchandising, it could mean advertising, it could mean all sorts of things, and the job description seems to focus a lot on a requirement for quality, and pleasing gamers. It sets a bar, it doesn't just say "must be able to make as much money as possible and consequences be damned."

It doesn't specify any of CCP's products.

I actually read the whole thing, and I'm please with what I see. CCP is making a point that "monetization approaches [must be] based on quantitative and qualitative analyses". This tells me they know how to do their homework.

You can buy PLEX with real money and sell them for ISK.

There is nothing you can't do with enough ISK.

Buy a fleet of characters with supers and pay PL/N3 to do your bidding.

Game over you won EVE.

Some thoughts on this.

DUST is not pay-to-win. It's pay-to-access-stuff-earlier-than-you-normally-would-be-able-to. An AUR Assault ck.0 has exactly the same stats as an ISK Assault ck.0. The only difference is that you can use the AUR version with Caldari Assault III instead of V for the ISK version. Actually, if you use an ISK Assault ck.0 it means you must be at Caldari Assault V and if I am using an AUR Assault ck.0 I could have Caldari Assault as low as III. In that case, while our suits are identical, you would have a better shield recharge rate and more effective shield extenders (currently as of 1.7) than I would due to your higher skill.

An EVE equivalent would be have an AUR Marauder with exactly the same stats as a regular Marauder, but with skill requirements being something like only needed Racial Battleship V and not needing to train the other skills to inject Marauder.

It would be terrible, and EVE players would hate it, and 'instant gratification' and other marketing buzzword bullshit. DUST players in general are too FPS-y to know what to think about the state of their pay-to-access-stuff-earlier-than-you-normally-would-be-able-to game. They generally think it's pay to win, and get giant gamer boners when they kill someone in AUR gear. They don't seem to realize, as already mentioned, that an AUR target could generally be an easier target to kill than an ISK target. Maybe some dude just has a ton of cash and doesn't have the time to hit his skill cap every week to get the skills needed to use that ISK PRO gear.

For what it's worth, the only thing I spend AUR on in DUST (and likely ever will spend AUR on) are SP Boosters, which equates to a 15 USD / mo subscription. But I wait to buy the AUR when there's a special promo or sale, I buy larger AUR packs so I get effectively more AUR / USD, and I buy the boosters themselves when they're on sale or special promo.

EDIT: fixed typos

Ok so what happens if someone who isn't a total moron does that and uses the ISK wisely?

Imagine if the battle of B-R was 100% reimbursed on the N3/PL side? All the USTZ lamers who didn't log in their supers b/c they didn't want to have to grind out enough ISK to get a new one would have jumped in and it would have been a different story.

I was simply using that as a 'what if' scenario trying to prove a point.

MMO's that allow you to buy characters or character upgrades without 'earning them' are considered pay to win.

Define a win in EVE. It's a relative term that doesn't have much meaning in this game because its a 'sandbox'.

Someone buy me 7 accounts with maxed out stealth bomber pilots and ISBoxer and I could certainly generate a massive amount of ISK loss in nullsec.

In my opinion the only way you truly win EVE is to have enough ISK to buy PLEX for the foreseeable future and only log on to set your skill queue.

When you reach EVE Offline you have truly beaten EVE Online.