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So one player can gank me in Highsec and not get Concorded?

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#61 - 2014-03-09 01:02:23 UTC
Tul Breetai wrote:
/facepalm


oops that's what I get for posting when knackered, I herped a derp and misunderstood the post Oops

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Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#62 - 2014-03-09 01:08:05 UTC
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Zabrina wrote:


Okay, just wondering what part of AFK hauling you missed.


Big smile ... lol ... play the game AT your keyboard next time.
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#63 - 2014-03-09 01:10:08 UTC
Aramatheia wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Oh well if you were afk hauling, that's a problem. You will need a permit and abide by the Code. You can learn more at www.minerbumping.com


i dont think theres a code or a permit for afk hauling -


Oh yes there is ... www.minerbumping.com
hellokittyonline
Hellokitty's Online Adventure
#64 - 2014-03-09 01:14:25 UTC
Zabrina wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Zabrina wrote:
Noddy Comet wrote:
Just out of curiosity, how many shots did you get off onto his mobile tractor unit before he blasted you??



Farming likes? Has your life come down to this?


People are trying to help you solve the mystery, be nice.

You came to GD for help. We are here to help you.


Okay, just wondering what part of AFK hauling you missed. I've been back a week. Havn't even killed a rat yet. You know how much you forget after 3 years?

I come back, I can fly ships that according to the skill requirements say I can't. My cyno alt has about 7 days of training again andI get ganked by a solo player with sentry drones.

What's in store for my Obelisk, Orca?

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2014-03-09 03:08:42 UTC
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Aramatheia wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Oh well if you were afk hauling, that's a problem. You will need a permit and abide by the Code. You can learn more at www.minerbumping.com


i dont think theres a code or a permit for afk hauling -


Oh yes there is ... www.minerbumping.com



Now they are just getting silly.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2014-03-09 07:57:24 UTC
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Aramatheia wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Oh well if you were afk hauling, that's a problem. You will need a permit and abide by the Code. You can learn more at www.minerbumping.com


i dont think theres a code or a permit for afk hauling -


Oh yes there is ... www.minerbumping.com


There is a permit which comes with the requirement to follow the Code. The Code is, if anything, kind of anti-AFK. We're not fans.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Kiryen O'Bannon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#67 - 2014-03-09 08:11:06 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Aramatheia wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Oh well if you were afk hauling, that's a problem. You will need a permit and abide by the Code. You can learn more at www.minerbumping.com


i dont think theres a code or a permit for afk hauling -


Oh yes there is ... www.minerbumping.com



Now they are just getting silly.

It's been silly pretty much the entire time.

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Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#68 - 2014-03-09 10:54:52 UTC
Kiryen O'Bannon wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Aramatheia wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Oh well if you were afk hauling, that's a problem. You will need a permit and abide by the Code. You can learn more at www.minerbumping.com


i dont think theres a code or a permit for afk hauling -


Oh yes there is ... www.minerbumping.com



Now they are just getting silly.

It's been silly pretty much the entire time.


Unfunny, over used ****** memes tend to be like that.
Boomhaur
#69 - 2014-03-09 12:29:49 UTC
Don't AFK haul in an untanked ship. If you autopilot do it in something make sure it's stupidly overtanked and fits these requirements at bare minium. Or better yet don't autopilot with goods.

1) You are not profitable to kill under any circumstances.
2) Extracting your tears is not profitable.
3) You have such a stupidly high EHP on your lowest resist it's unlikely to encounter a gang with the firepower.
4) Split your freaking cargo if you even think Tears + Cargo + Ship/Fitting/Implants loss would be worth it to someone else to pop you just for laughs

For me I think autopilot ships with or without goods in it should have at least 100k EHP. My standard pod mover is well over that amount. Why I do this is quite simple, I don't like waiting for someone to haul the goods for me when I have stupidly high EHP ships that can "safely" do this for me in the coarse of a few hours of Eve running in the background to make all those jumps.

For 225mil worth of cargo you don't only need a ship that is unprofitable to kill, but also a ship they know is not profitable to kill. If it's a low volume good, don't bother taking the industrial. Take out a combat ship with high EHP, industrialists are known for not knowing how to fit a freaking ship. Though a guy in say a Damnation hauling goods I would assume has an insane EHP tank before even ship scanning him, industrial on the other hand I half expect to see no tank.

Welcome to Eve. Everyone here is an Evil Sick Sadistic Bastard who is out to get you. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trying to scam you or use you.
Senfora Anophis
An Errant Venture
#70 - 2014-03-09 17:23:37 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Aramatheia wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Oh well if you were afk hauling, that's a problem. You will need a permit and abide by the Code. You can learn more at www.minerbumping.com


i dont think theres a code or a permit for afk hauling -


Oh yes there is ... www.minerbumping.com



Now they are just getting silly.


I quite agree.

10 Million? For a YEAR?

That's far too low.
Zabrina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2014-03-10 00:38:26 UTC
Tul Breetai wrote:
Zabrina wrote:


Lets see.

1. Misquote poster several time on some key points.
2. Maintain the vernacular as if they're direct quotes from OP.
3. Berate OP.

That's like so '90's mmorpg.

Are you capable of replying point by point? *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.


I don't don't have to point by point rebut. Just pull up the post and your post and compare them side by side. Duh!
Grunanca
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#72 - 2014-03-10 07:05:58 UTC
Zabrina wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Zabrina wrote:
Noddy Comet wrote:
Just out of curiosity, how many shots did you get off onto his mobile tractor unit before he blasted you??



Farming likes? Has your life come down to this?


People are trying to help you solve the mystery, be nice.

You came to GD for help. We are here to help you.


Okay, just wondering what part of AFK hauling you missed. I've been back a week. Havn't even killed a rat yet. You know how much you forget after 3 years?

I come back, I can fly ships that according to the skill requirements say I can't. My cyno alt has about 7 days of training again andI get ganked by a solo player with sentry drones.

What's in store for my Obelisk, Orca?


Depends on what you put in your cargohold before undocking...
Lady Katherine Devonshire
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#73 - 2014-03-10 08:23:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Lady Katherine Devonshire
Zabrina wrote:
There must be something about sentry drones interaction in highsec , concord, and PVP.


Due to the horrible bugs in the drone coding, oftentimes they will continue to fight even after their controlling ship has been destroyed.

Zabrina wrote:
my T2 BPOs


And this is why you were ganked. Forget everything else, that was their target. The value of a T2 BPO is immeasurable. CCP has been trying to eliminate them from the game for years. To that end, it would not surprise me that CONCORD managed to mysteriously not show up when a ship carrying T2 BPOs was attacked. What a coincidence! And I am guessing that they did not drop, either, correct?

Items that the CCP wishes to see destroyed always find a way to become so. For reference, look up the drop rates for PLEX (i.e. 0%)

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#74 - 2014-03-10 08:29:10 UTC
Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:

And this is why you were ganked. Forget everything else, that was their target. The value of a T2 BPO is immeasurable. CCP has been trying to eliminate them from the game for years. To that end, it would not surprise me that CONCORD managed to mysteriously not show up when a ship carrying T2 BPOs was attacked. What a coincidence! And I am guessing that they did not drop, either, correct?

Items that the CCP wishes to see destroyed always find a way to become so. For reference, look up the drop rates for PLEX (i.e. 0%)


This, ladies and gentlemen, is what a persecution complex looks like.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Bi-Mi Lansatha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2014-03-10 08:58:19 UTC
Zabrina wrote:
...225m lost total in cargo and ship...

Iteron Mark V
Security: 0.5
Damage Taken: 1706
Shocked

Why would you fly something like this?
Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
#76 - 2014-03-10 14:06:24 UTC
Zabrina wrote:

No, I understand concord is not there to protect me. There must be something about sentry drones interaction in highsec , concord, and PVP.

I just remember the day I smartbombed somebody out during a mission and got punished in no time flat. This one was rather sad as I never saw Concord. Just my hull melt.


As others have said, 20 seconds is more than enough time to kill an anti-tanked T1 industrial and your pod before they get blapped by Concord, but this quote makes me wonder if maybe someone had a kill right on you for your smartbombing incident, and made it publicly available. He could have bought the kill right, making it a legal kill with no Concord response. If not, *someone* has a kill right on you, and you may lose another, more expensive ship if it wasn't used there. Better check your kill rights before you fly anything expensive.

Welcome back!
Zabrina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#77 - 2014-03-11 04:51:25 UTC
Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:
Zabrina wrote:
...225m lost total in cargo and ship...

Iteron Mark V
Security: 0.5
Damage Taken: 1706
Shocked

Why would you fly something like this?



Because after a decade of on again off again playing, I'm still a noob care bear and I like to AFK haul. It's ******** I know. If there is a kill mail archive, I think 5 years ago I was ganked afk hauling 900,000,000 ISK in datacores.

I wonder if an MTU will self deploy from your cargo if somebody ganks you. Have it loot your wreck and cargo before they can get to it. lol.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2014-03-11 06:07:30 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:

And this is why you were ganked. Forget everything else, that was their target. The value of a T2 BPO is immeasurable. CCP has been trying to eliminate them from the game for years. To that end, it would not surprise me that CONCORD managed to mysteriously not show up when a ship carrying T2 BPOs was attacked. What a coincidence! And I am guessing that they did not drop, either, correct?

Items that the CCP wishes to see destroyed always find a way to become so. For reference, look up the drop rates for PLEX (i.e. 0%)


This, ladies and gentlemen, is what a persecution complex looks like.


And what not properly maintaining your tin foil hat will get you.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#79 - 2014-03-11 06:11:26 UTC
Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:
Zabrina wrote:
...225m lost total in cargo and ship...

Iteron Mark V
Security: 0.5
Damage Taken: 1706
Shocked

Why would you fly something like this?



As a returning player they are probably unaware how badly the Itty V was nerfed in terms of tank in recent patches and how common T1 ganking has become :D
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#80 - 2014-03-11 06:35:50 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:
Zabrina wrote:
...225m lost total in cargo and ship...

Iteron Mark V
Security: 0.5
Damage Taken: 1706
Shocked

Why would you fly something like this?



As a returning player they are probably unaware how badly the Itty V was nerfed in terms of tank in recent patches and how common T1 ganking has become :D


T1 ganking hasnt changed and you could always kill them this easily if they fit a very poor tank with a full rack of cargo expanders.