Crime & Punishment

There are many ways to enjoy EvE Online...mining , manufacturing , missions , ratting , exploration as well as PvPing . It's well known even to newcomers that if you want to go after the the most lucretive fruit that is found in null-sec , low-sec and wormhole space . In other words "dangerous" space . There aren't many people in system in null/low/WH space and it's fairly easy to keep track of who's who out there . Plus there are intel channels , something you couldn't even make work in a system like Jita or others with anywhere from 300 to 3000 people in them at all times . A ganker can slide right up next to you in high-sec and you'd never even know they were a threat until it was too late to do anything about it . They use cheap little throw-away catalysts for the most part but even the new T3 battlecruisers are no big loss compared to the riches that can be carried by some poor unsuspecting frieghter pilot in high-sec carrying the sum total of perhaps 3-4 years accumulation and work in a ship that moves like a snail and can't even fit so much as a defense mod . What i'm saying is if you're ganked in anything other than high-sec you were often just plain unlucky and taking your chances . Not going about your business like in high-sec where you only had a slow reacting CONCORD to depend on to almost save your ship .
So I've got a few suggestions for CCP based on the above "if possible" . #1 make CONCORD show up as soon ships turn on the "disable safety" button and blow up any ship that fires on another that they don't have a war-dec or a killright on . #2 Give ships in high-sec the same DPS as a high-sec RAT would have if they were attempting to blow up a ship that they didn't have a killright or a war-dec on .

There's been a lot of buzz going around about how much danger there should be in high-sec but I don't force my game on gankers so why should they be allowed to force their game on me !

**what...what's that ? did i hear the word whine**

Their game is Eve Online. Gankers act in almost exactly the same way as countless Eve marketing and trailers, making the universe a cruel, harsh place with suddenly explosions.

Not sure how you think this isn't forcing 'your game' (insert gb2WOW joke) on them and the rest of Eve by essentially wanting safe areas or a PVP flagging system, the exact opposite of the games design from the beginning.

Spread this over two replies because of the "you can only quote 5 times" rule.

Null and low aren't dangerous. They're more risky which isn't the same thing.

The key difference between high and not high is concord acts as a deterrant and retribution in high, but it's far FAR more dangerous than either null or low.

Destroyers don't just insta-appear you know. Use dscan and you can see them coming in advance. There are other problems such as if you're being bumped and thus can't align out, but it's far from "you'd never even know"

I assume you're talking about freighters? Get a friend, get an alt, duel them, get webbed = into warp much faster. That's the snail part sorted. Don't fit your entire life's work in there. That's the target part sorted.
Give your stuff to a courier with approprirate collaterol, problem solved.

Let me ask this. Let's say you live on a road that's known for carjackings. Do you pack your $5000 home cinema system in your car in plain view, then drive down that road slowly? No? So why do it in EVE.

You take your chances in any sec. It sounds like you're saying "high sec is supposed to be safe" which isn't true.

Suggestions for players: don't put your entire house in a freighter, don't mine without being alert, learn the game mechanics so you don't get caught out on can flipping and the like.

OP, please post your lossmail so we can all have a good laugh.

I didn't expect to be making friends among high-sec gankers and ganker sympathizers and I have only this to say to those who have posted so far in reply .

HI-SEC GANKING IS NOT ANYBODY'S RIGHT ...IT IS ILLEAGLE !

The problem is that a blind eye has been turned to it for the last few years as it steadily got worse . There used to be fun for all not just a minor segment of the playing population who will milk this cow until it can't stand up . CONCORD needs longer arms and sharper teeth .

ARE YOU SURE ITS NOT SICKHAWK?

OP, I strongly suggest you purchase a mining permit and change your ways asap. You can read the full text of the Code at www.minerbumping.com as well as read some delightful articles.

Also, please spell words how they are actually spelled instead of how you wish they were spelled.

Monk I'm really not trying to get rid of PvP or even ganking for that matter , they're part of the game and as such they deserve a place in it . My problem is with hi-sec ganking . It's NOT PvP IMO it's plain and simply a cheap shot and an affront on my sense of fair play . It should offend anybody who can tell the difference between right and wrong . Also it alters the entire fabric of the game itself when routes to and from the large hubs like Jita seem to be constantly patrolled by a few people with their own selfish interests at heart and not the interests of this gem of a game we play . Yes CONCORD gets there but usurally not in time to save the day and voices like mine are just going to get louder and more numerous until something is done about it .

Erotica you and CODE are one of the major things wrong with this game ! You put a whole new spin on on the word "cheapshot" . It's not enough that you gank innocent miners in high-sec you attempt to extort money out of them as well and as if that wasn't enough you rub salt into the wound by making them support your neferious activites in thier personal bios . You remind me of a school bully who doesn't think it's enough to beat up his opponent but also makes them get down on their knees to ask his forgiveness . Your "messiah" James315 is nothing but a devils advocate who sounds like he got his education at the hands of Satan himself........yes i've read his stuff .

You aren't trying to get rid of ganking, you are just trying to get rid of ganking of you. Which you can do, without forum moaning. I haven't ever lost a spaceship to other players in highsec, on any of my characters.

Step 1 - undock insta
Step 2 - don't autopilot
Step 3 - use the right ship for the right load, and occasionally divide the load to make that true.
Step 4 - use something other than perimeter gate
Step 5 - have docking insta.

Note the above is nearly good enough to avoid being killed by a wartarget who has far more freedom to engage than a ganker does (ship selection matters a lot if you are at war).



No - keeping afk out of the game is not a bad thing. The only problem that James has is using 3x as many words to get a point across as is necessary much of the time.

OP - I see more ganking in your future. Consider yourself watchlisted.

Are you aware that I can ask a level 4 mission agent to locate you, and within 4 or so minutes I will get a mail with your location?