EVE General Discussion

Except your NOT buying 600m isk. your buying a card that someone can buy from you with in-game isk.

Plex doesnt create isk; it moves it around.

At first the isuscorp was coming out of thin air. No ship(s) where manufactured you just went to the NEX paid with AUR and tada a ishuscorp was waiting for you in your hangar.

I didn't dig too deep but here's a start link for you: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1538783

I'll toss in my .02 isk.

I was inactive during incarna's roll out (wife had a kiddo yay me) anyway, I heard about all the crap through the grape vine and was a tad disappointed that they killed WiS delvopment. But was happy they were going to fix space side.

As already said, Aurum is just so you can split between game money and real money. Otherwise you would toss the econmy out of whack.

I personally have no issues with the $70 monacal, or paint jobs, or clothing. TBH, I think CCP would take a small batch of devs and rework the nex store, give us MORE stuff to play with, that doesn't effect game play what so ever, and then see if people want it for a cycle. Because, it could honestly pay for the development of WiS without taking anything from other teams doing space stuff. It would in essence be a win win. Esp because you have that other hyped game that a lot of random eve players, who know nothing about why a lot of us remain here, are foaming at the mouth over. If ccp put in stuff they currently have, set better pricing, let plays play Space Barbie, they could in essence get the money to hire a few devs to work just on WiS. And in a few development cycles we could see the damn door open. And then that would be something else to tell people who they start rambling about that other game that's not even alpha yet.

Then you can still play in space, you subscription funds that, and the Aurum sells fund WiS. Both could be developed easily, but ccp needs to not do stupid crap like give you a better ship for Aurum, or this ammo that will melt shelds in one shot via any ship. or something. They already have things, just add them to nex, revamp it, and see. if people pay for the clothes and things, then it means we want MORE WiS.

just tossing that out there, I for one want the damn door open, and will gladly toss a plex at aurum to help make that **** happen

If eve becomes like dota/tf2 where they introduce new **** all the time to cash in at a steady pace, then count me out. I don't want that **** to ruin eve. In its current iteration where you buy blueprints for specific ship paint jobs it is pretty uninteresting.

The "Greed is good" in office mail didn't help either.

As would I.

it doesn't matter, it pissed players off, made ccp change focus. Good that they fixed space, bad that they left yet another feature unfinished.

An attempt to partake of the microtransaction fad without looking like they're partaking in the microtransaction fad.
If you're a real cool guy who's sold out to the corporate mentality, you just don't want to LOOK like you sold out to
the corporate mentality.

(This way you can continue to listen to your Foreigner CDs and still feel like you're a rebel! Woo hoo!)

So this may be the point that I slap my forehead for realising that I had it wrong all these years?

I thought that PLEX only allowed a player to sell game time to another player for the ISK that they had built up - and vice-versa. Essentially a game time/sandbox isk effort trade.

The NEX/Aurum allowed in game content to be generated from out of game money (admittedly also from in game generated PLEX converted to AUR). The critical thing here is content generated from out of game means, nothing to do with players and the EVE sandbox. That nice jacket wasn't a level 8 standing reward from an NPC corp - you simply bought it with cash and it appeared.

Maybe I need to think about this some more - I certainly need to get some perspective!

I think so. It wouldn't make sense for CCP to accept ISK for character transfers or resculpts, they want PLEX (because that plex came from RL money). But they don't expect people to pay a full plex for cosmetic items (sans the monocle). So someone can get a plex, convert it to aurum, and then that represents money going to CCP when someone buys something from the Nex store (destroying aurum). And then players who paid aurum for stuff can turn around and sell it for isk to other players, but at no point is CCP giving away stuff for isk, because CCP doesn't need isk. And because of the way it all works, there's an isk market for these items, so paying for cosmetics with isk is roughly equivalent to plexing your account with isk, and no one is forced to deal with aurum to get anything, there's a whole market for people that want to do that.



If you blow up someone and steal their plex, it may as well be game-generated as far as you might be concerned.

Plus there's also stuff like PLEX for snitches, or PLEX from collector's edition codes, or whatever the hell else CCP feels like giving out PLEX for. But yeah, these are all exceptions to what is basically true: PLEX comes from RL money.