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JetStream Drenard
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#21 - 2014-03-07 10:25:23 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
iNfeck7ed wrote:
What does everyone think about changing the date format from the unconventional format of dd/mm/yyyy to the conventional mm/dd/yyyy? I don't see it anyone else the way ccp does it, and it always takes me a second to adjust to.


How about the USA finally progresses out of the middle age into modern age and uses proper date and time format, let alone measurement units?

Meh, There is nothing improper here, just different. you say the 7th of March, we say March 7th. We should change it, but only because we are in the global minority.

We did try to change to metric in the 90's, but people hate change, and it never got enough support. Just look at this forum.
Colt Blackhawk
Doomheim
#22 - 2014-03-07 10:31:40 UTC
Mars Climate Orbiter....
Don´t think I need to write more Lol

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Jinn Aideron
#23 - 2014-03-07 10:34:41 UTC
Coming from this end of the spectrum that has to convert dates on-the-fly in English localized software for everything but Eve, I feel for you. It's very unsettling, more so than one would think.

Everybody did notice and appreciate though how gracefully they handle the decimal point? Great! Smile

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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#24 - 2014-03-07 10:42:40 UTC
JetStream Drenard wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
iNfeck7ed wrote:
What does everyone think about changing the date format from the unconventional format of dd/mm/yyyy to the conventional mm/dd/yyyy? I don't see it anyone else the way ccp does it, and it always takes me a second to adjust to.


How about the USA finally progresses out of the middle age into modern age and uses proper date and time format, let alone measurement units?

Meh, There is nothing improper here, just different. you say the 7th of March, we say March 7th. We should change it, but only because we are in the global minority.

We did try to change to metric in the 90's, but people hate change, and it never got enough support. Just look at this forum.


That's good to hear, but unfortunately those stuck in the mud always want it their way and are the most vocal; so my comment stands. Smile

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Rab See
Stellar Dynamics
#25 - 2014-03-07 11:31:15 UTC

Sigh.

Working in Tech, and worldwide, this crap crops up constantly. The USA is a PITA.

What date is this?
12/12/2004

What date is this?
2004/12/12

One is totally meaningless without a local context. The other is meaningful everywhere. ISO standard for this reason.
Gimme more Cynos
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#26 - 2014-03-07 11:51:23 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
iNfeck7ed wrote:
What does everyone think about changing the date format from the unconventional format of dd/mm/yyyy to the conventional mm/dd/yyyy? I don't see it anyone else the way ccp does it, and it always takes me a second to adjust to.


How about the USA finally progresses out of the middle age into modern age and uses proper date and time format, let alone measurement units?

-1


THIS, so much THIS.

mm/dd/yyyy is bullcrap.

Why can't you have a logical progression from smallest to largest or from largest to smallest atleast. Medium, Small, Large is weird and only confusing.
Agonising Ecstacy
Chaos Army
#27 - 2014-03-07 12:57:06 UTC
Rab See wrote:

Sigh.

Working in Tech, and worldwide, this crap crops up constantly. The USA is a PITA.

What date is this?
12/12/2004

What date is this?
2004/12/12

One is totally meaningless without a local context. The other is meaningful everywhere. ISO standard for this reason.


Both unambiguosly December 12, 2004...?

Maybe if you'd have said 11/12/2004 and 12/11/2004 you'd have a point?
Rab See
Stellar Dynamics
#28 - 2014-03-07 14:03:35 UTC
Agonising Ecstacy wrote:
Rab See wrote:

Sigh.

Working in Tech, and worldwide, this crap crops up constantly. The USA is a PITA.

What date is this?
12/12/2004

What date is this?
2004/12/12

One is totally meaningless without a local context. The other is meaningful everywhere. ISO standard for this reason.


Both unambiguosly December 12, 2004...?

Maybe if you'd have said 11/12/2004 and 12/11/2004 you'd have a point?


Thanks. and well spotted. Trust me to cut/paste ... and rather scarily, just had another dev asking why we use A B C D E for our dates (most significant to least) rather than .. well, hes from Detroit.
seth Hendar
I love you miners
#29 - 2014-03-07 14:15:48 UTC
simple, ISO 8601, use it or stfu
Arden Elenduil
Unlimited Bear Works
#30 - 2014-03-07 14:46:20 UTC
I too would like to date some of the CCP devs.


...
Wait, this isn't about dating CCP?
**** :(
Vash Loney
Skullspace Industries
#31 - 2014-03-07 15:09:31 UTC
With regards to the ISO 8601 format...

https://xkcd.com/1179/

It makes sense to use an international format.
Alberik
Eusebius Corporation
#32 - 2014-03-07 15:14:56 UTC
JetStream Drenard wrote:
Zan Shiro wrote:
JetStream Drenard wrote:
Seliah wrote:
iNfeck7ed wrote:
What does everyone think about changing the date format from the unconventional format of dd/mm/yyyy to the conventional mm/dd/yyyy? I don't see it anyone else the way ccp does it, and it always takes me a second to adjust to.


There are roughly 320 million people in the world using the mm/dd/yyyy format, against 3.420 billion using the dd/mm/yyyy. Sorry to disappoint you, USA aren't the centre of the world ^^.

Source :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country

any american who hasn't traveled probably doesn't realize this.



op also hasn't served in the US miliary either. D M Y format is common there. I worked elec. maintenance as a Marine so I also learned Julian calender too.


Air Force Aircraft Environmental and Electrical Systems. I almost forgot about the julian calendar. The calendar that requires a conversion chart. Ugh May, you never have to convert julian day 248 into Sep 5th again.

Y / M / D is superior from a sorting and organizing perspective. But so is the metric system from a measurement perspective.


i think the orthodox christian easter date is still calculated after the julian calendar. but i have no idea, why you need this for Marine mainenance (except your ships are so old, they date back 1582)
Jinn Aideron
#33 - 2014-03-07 15:15:03 UTC
Vash Loney wrote:
With regards to the ISO 8601 format...

https://xkcd.com/1179/

It makes sense to use an international format.
His conviction doesn't even survive all the way into his traditional XKCD cartoon tooltip. Lol

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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved
#34 - 2014-03-07 15:29:09 UTC
Jumping in to bash US backwards dating and measurements!

Seriously, unless you measure with you knuckles, why would you ever bother with weird multiples of anything that isn't 10, and with fractions of your knuckle.
Madmartigan
Celestial Precision
#35 - 2014-03-07 16:07:22 UTC
I for one use dd/mm/yy, but the mm/dd/yy never really did confuse me much.

Also if someone is confused about the format, that someone can easily just use the alphabetical method of june 13th or 13th of june f.i.
Really don´t see a problem here.

But CCP could easily solve this issue by adding it as a setting in your esc menu in game.
JetStream Drenard
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#36 - 2014-03-07 16:38:03 UTC
Alberik wrote:
i think the orthodox christian easter date is still calculated after the julian calendar. but i have no idea, why you need this for Marine mainenance (except your ships are so old, they date back 1582)

The US military uses julian day accounting for some unknown obscure reason. at a guess, if a service check on an aircraft or tank is due every 10, or 15 or 30 days, etc it is theoretically simpler to use julian day format.
JetStream Drenard
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#37 - 2014-03-07 16:43:35 UTC
hydraSlav wrote:
Jumping in to bash US backwards dating and measurements!

Seriously, unless you measure with you knuckles, why would you ever bother with weird multiples of anything that isn't 10, and with fractions of your knuckle.

You can blame the British for that, since that is what the US system originated from. And if you research it you will find that their units of measurement pre-dated the metric system. Why we keep doing it is inertia and resistance to change.
Pew Terror
All of it
#38 - 2014-03-07 17:22:20 UTC
iNfeck7ed wrote:
What does everyone think about changing the date format from the unconventional format of dd/mm/yyyy to the conventional mm/dd/yyyy? I don't see it anyone else the way ccp does it, and it always takes me a second to adjust to.


Cute, it thinks it is people... "conventional", hilarious. Thx for the lulz!
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#39 - 2014-03-07 17:32:32 UTC
I'm surprised this has got 2 pages of response
Jinn Aideron
#40 - 2014-03-07 17:51:49 UTC
JetStream Drenard wrote:
...
This had me look into Julian and modified a little, so thanks for that. Smile

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