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A Market To Buy and Sell L.P
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2014-03-06 10:45:57 UTC
Major Trant wrote:
...snippety snip

1. Making LP that is currently unused suddenly easy to convert and use is an Isk generater, not a sink, whether you tax it or not.
2. It is already easy to work out who is the best corp to work for and you have even linked a tool in the same post to do that for you. If people are too lazy to do that or can't be bothered to grind up the standings with a new corp, giving them access to items from other LP stores without having to grind the standing isn't going to encourage them to grind those standings.



Good summary that's what I've been trying to say in each of these LP trading threads, though I still wouldn't be averse to being able to push LP up to faction level.
Vartan Sarkisian
Tannhauser C-Beam
Seker Academy
#42 - 2014-03-06 13:24:24 UTC
I'd like this to get rid of all that crap sub 100 LP that I have built up... or at least have the option to bin the LP.

+1
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#43 - 2014-03-06 13:49:31 UTC
Noxisia Arkana wrote:
+1 I have 10,000 LP in a faction that I will probably never mission for again. Plus I don't like market math, I'd rather someone just lowball me the value of my LP and reap the benefits of my laziness.


I sold a bunch of LP a year or two ago, to someone who was a pro LP trader. As I recall, she told me that she got something like 2.5 or 3 times as much out of it as I did, but I was perfectly okay with such a ratio, especially given that it actually involved a bunch of work for her, to figure out exactly what I should spend my LP on (various BPC and BPO, IIRC). All I had to do was fly to a few stations and spend the LP, then contract the stuff to the buyer.
Hesod Adee
Perkone
Caldari State
#44 - 2014-03-06 19:31:00 UTC
Major Trant wrote:
Please use valid arguments to support your view, this is complete rubbish.

1. Making LP that is currently unused suddenly easy to convert and use is an Isk generater, not a sink, whether you tax it or not.


ISK changing hands from one player to another is not an ISK generator. An ISK generator generates ISK. Meaning it creates new ISK.

An ISK sink destroys ISK. So any time an NPC takes ISK, that's an ISK sink.

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2. It is already easy to work out who is the best corp to work for and you have even linked a tool in the same post to do that for you. If people are too lazy to do that or can't be bothered to grind up the standings with a new corp, giving them access to items from other LP stores without having to grind the standing isn't going to encourage them to grind those standings.


Or when the player is new and doesn't know those tools exist.

Though it doesn't help that those tools, or at least the better publicized ones, are not enough for reliable cashing out of LP. Look at the ISK:LP ratios on sell orders and you will get an item that nobody wants to buy. Look at the buy prices and you're not getting the optimal items.
Hesod Adee
Perkone
Caldari State
#45 - 2014-03-06 19:31:56 UTC
Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:
If LP were tradeable anyone with them would simply have sold to the highest bidder who would effective;ly have been buying the ship. As it was the whole LP mechanism provided CCP with a great means to introduce new faction items and drive players to specific locations, with then provided more conflict as the mission runners got jumped more often.


Players would still need to farm the LP. So they would still be driven to the valuable LP sources.
Michael Ignis Archangel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#46 - 2014-03-27 04:22:23 UTC
+1, two conditions:

1) Cash-in for tokens, which are items. Destroyable, yet so, so compelling to move in a shuttle.
2) 75% conversion rate - and LP tokens must be fed into your journal before redemption by the purchasing party.

This way the ISK sink increases, lazy people get more ISK which they'll just waste anyway, and smart/enterprising pilots triumph over the lazy "as intended."
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