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Mining need to be changed

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Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#1 - 2014-03-06 19:13:43 UTC
Ive been mining at a large scale, but one thing drags it Down to shite... it takes forever. I dont have 2-4 hrs to mine everyday. Itsa f... drag. Usually i mine out 1 belt With 6 toons within 2-2,5 hrs. (1 orca, 1 freighter, 4 hulks).

From what ive seen, fewer and fewer mines now, it takes just too long. And New miners tend to be ganked as fast, cuz retrivers and covetors are shite easy targets.... so New miners are highrisk for just quit mining due to ganking and a everlast borring repetative mining. Also many miningcorps have trouble With getting miners to meet up when corp mining is issued.

At some point EVE needs to change the mining, either get T3 miners and with T3 orcas to speed Things up, or just reduce minetime or/and increase ore amount.

Something needs to be done to make mining more interesting and fun, cuz it SUCKS :D
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2014-03-06 19:15:25 UTC
mining is about as entertaining as watching a progress bar for uninstalling an mmo client

so yes it needs an overhaul
Serene Repose
#3 - 2014-03-06 19:16:27 UTC
watching paint dry

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-03-06 19:17:20 UTC
seriously ccp, bloody cookie clicker has more meaningful gameplay than mining
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#5 - 2014-03-06 19:17:28 UTC
Mining is about as fun as watching paint dry while listening to grass growing on the radio.




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Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
#6 - 2014-03-06 19:17:30 UTC
Okay let's sum up how stupid this thread is.


"I want mining to be worth more faster"

"I think supply should be increased even further, so my own mining is worth even less"

"People are reducing my competition and that sucks"
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-03-06 19:19:49 UTC
Loraine Gess wrote:
Okay let's sum up how stupid this thread is.


"I want mining to be worth more faster"

"I think supply should be increased even further, so my own mining is worth even less"

"People are reducing my competition and that sucks"

"I didn't read the OP"
Jamagh
Grand Violations
#8 - 2014-03-06 19:21:09 UTC
It is relaxing. If you find it boring, take something else up. Go PVP, I can use more buyers for my minerals.

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Commander Spurty
#9 - 2014-03-06 19:24:37 UTC
Loraine Gess wrote:
Okay let's sum up how stupid this thread is.


"I want mining to be worth more faster"

"I think supply should be increased even further, so my own mining is worth even less"

"People are reducing my competition and that sucks"


At least sum it up correctly.

"Make mining fun".

Feel free to make it take 100 times as long, but make it interesting!

Also why not on ship per ore type? Modular ships are t3 and not crusty crystal types you switch.

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#10 - 2014-03-06 19:31:28 UTC
Jamagh wrote:
It is relaxing.


Holy ****! I just got BINGO on my minerbumping.com bingo card!

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Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#11 - 2014-03-06 19:32:29 UTC
Jamagh wrote:
It is relaxing. If you find it boring, take something else up. Go PVP, I can use more buyers for my minerals.


i agree it relaxing... if u got the time and dont work, or is home sick... or sitting at work doing shite...

Mining is only fun the 100 first times u do it, then suddenly it hits u in the face With a shovel and u realize wtf ure wasting ur time on.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#12 - 2014-03-06 19:32:57 UTC
Spurty wrote:
"Make mining fun".
how do you make shooting rocks fun?

Bring back the jukebox so there is some interesting distraction, but from a game design perspective making mining fun would be a very difficult task in my opinion.

What would you change to make the process of mining interesting?
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#13 - 2014-03-06 19:35:01 UTC
one thing EVE could do, was to make mining like PL and moonmining, but With smaller yield. And give mining barges an advatange so the mining barges dont dissapers completely
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#14 - 2014-03-06 19:42:02 UTC
Procurers deal with the ganking problem, with minimal impact on yield.

(I agree there need to be changes to mining. But not for the same reasons)

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Karen Avioras
The Raging Raccoons
#15 - 2014-03-06 19:46:15 UTC
Mining is great for clearing that movies/tv-series to watch list. List does not combo well with pvp.
Willmahh
#16 - 2014-03-06 19:51:17 UTC
hmmm. More free money with even less risk... and faster?

Sounds legit.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-03-06 19:51:56 UTC  |  Edited by: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
Ive been mining at a large scale, but one thing drags it Down to shite... it takes forever. I dont have 2-4 hrs to mine everyday. Itsa f... drag. Usually i mine out 1 belt With 6 toons within 2-2,5 hrs. (1 orca, 1 freighter, 4 hulks).

From what ive seen, fewer and fewer mines now, it takes just too long. And New miners tend to be ganked as fast, cuz retrivers and covetors are shite easy targets.... so New miners are highrisk for just quit mining due to ganking and a everlast borring repetative mining. Also many miningcorps have trouble With getting miners to meet up when corp mining is issued.

At some point EVE needs to change the mining, either get T3 miners and with T3 orcas to speed Things up, or just reduce minetime or/and increase ore amount.

Something needs to be done to make mining more interesting and fun, cuz it SUCKS :D

Mining does need to be change, but crashing the eve economy (read as :increasing ore amounts and dropping ship prices") is not the way to do it. It needs to be changed to require active user input to decrease the effectiveness of multiboxing/botting/afk mining. No profession should reward not being at your computer more than it does paying attention. Also, no mining ships are "easy" targets if the player is at their keyboard watching local and using d-scan. If you believe that, try ganking targets that are paying attention some time.

Willmahh wrote:
hmmm. More free money with even less risk... and faster?

Sounds legit.

Not sure if you're being scarcastic or not. If you are, ignore me. Any increased yield in mining leads to only a initial increase in profits. Ore and ship prices will drop as a result leading to the miners' incomes stabilizing. The reason mining makes so little for the time invested is that so little effort has to be invested. Until this is fixed it will continue to be a trap for players to flock to as a money making profession before realizing that eve has turned into staring at a immobile laser for hours on end.

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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#18 - 2014-03-06 19:56:13 UTC
I have a few ideas on how to expand mining to make it fit to a wider array of play styles. Check the link in my signature.
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-03-06 20:12:43 UTC
How to fix mining:

Give it a minigame everytime the miner cycles akin to exploration. The asteroid now spews "ores" for you to click in space to pick up. It's a fool proof plan that worked with exploration! Roll

Hey the OP complained about mining being boring so let's make it interactive.

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Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#20 - 2014-03-06 20:15:30 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
I have a few ideas on how to expand mining to make it fit to a wider array of play styles. Check the link in my signature.



Good idea u got :)


As one of my corpmates suggested, T3 mining barges that only get mining boost from a T3 orca thingy... with New skills.
didnt get the hole idea, but that was the basics of the idea.
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