EVE General Discussion

Hello

I'll try to keep this post brief.

As many of us are aware, limited edition reskins are already prevalent in EVE. While we have things such as the Inner Zone Shipping Imicus which is very inexpensive and common, we also have things such as the Ishukone Watch Scorpion, which is priced well into the billions.

In the interests of being a completely functional and choice laden feature, I think most of us want even those ships to be available under Ship Painting. However, there are collectors who spent an order of magnitude more ISK on the ships when they first came out, than they would on the ships under Ship Painting's equivalent costs.

How can we reconcile this?

• Should the LE ships be excluded from Ship Painting?
• Should they be priced under Ship Painting differently from their hull equivalents? (i.e. higher prices)
• Should they be offered at the same costs as their equivalent hull types, collectors be damned?

What do you think would be the best solution to the problem?

Note to ISD:

While I understand if you are forced to lock this thread, I am hoping to get some useful information for CCP gathered in this thread regarding the opinions of players on this specific topic. I feel doing so here under this specific topic (as long as posters can stay on topic) would be more helpful than trying to ask opinions in the excited milieu of the DevBlog thread.

Anything more than one paragraph isnt brief!

And I guess the logo will still be different...

I honestly dont care about the limited edition ships or their value, I just wanna mess around with ship colours.

The Ishukone Scorpion was given out freely with the understanding that it was never intended to be a limited-edition ship, only a reward for people who contributed an outsize amount of content or community support to the game.

Unless CCP specifically says, "this is a limited edition ship," it's not a limited edition ship, and collectors should make their purchases with that in mind.

I cant wait for the trade hub painted ship scams to begin! ::tingles::


Also: Stealth ship painting thread is still ship painting thread.

I swear to god it's a Widow! I just "renamed" it to "Scoprion Red and Black Edition" to be ironic!

The best solution is for collectors to suck it. Their value is based entirely on rarity and speculation, CCP is under no obligation to protect them. Specifically in the case of the IWS, CCP said they would consider releasing more in the future. IF CCP decides to release those skins as part of general options for any ship (or something), then its safe to assume the value of the IWS will plummet. If you paid money for rarity, you should enjoy it while its still rare. Demanding uniqueness or rarity to persist forever is unreasonable (except when explicitly stated otherwise).

However, I would expect many of these LE ships to remain as distinct typeIDs in the database rather than being completely converted into whatever scheme CCP has for reskinning other stuff (without defining thousands of new item types). They often have flavor text and the ISW doesn't refine into minerals.

As someone that collects ships, I don't care.

My ship collection is for my enjoyment, I sometimes undock them for others to enjoy as well when I have the time to "go visit" them. I don't treat them as an investment, and people that do probably aren't "true" collectors (ie. market speculators) anyway. Those of us that collect because that's what we like generally aren't as worried about the actual value as some might believe.

My .02 ISK.

Ishukone Watch Scorpion is this "limited edition"

Painted one would be - Scorpion Ishukone Edition

Why exclude "standard" skin like Ishukone just beacause there is a LE ships that has it.

To scam people into thinking your Jita of course :D

they should be called legendary and should NOT be available in painting schemes feature.