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Dev blog: Ship Painting Pilot Program

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#161 - 2014-03-06 18:11:03 UTC
Woop, woop!

It's the sound of the-

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Ali Aras
Nobody in Local
Deepwater Hooligans
#162 - 2014-03-06 18:13:08 UTC
SpaceSaft wrote:
That's nice.

For the complete feature we need player created and faction based skins.

Y'know, I agree with this-- I'd love to be able to fly my alliance colors with pride. It's something I've been pushing to CCP, but it's also something that just would not be possible under the BPC thing (imagine if everyone had to scroll past "Vindicator Noir Edition"). So, here's me hoping that this pilot succeeds, and the systems will be put in place that allow alliance skins ;-)

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Silivar Karkun
Doomheim
#163 - 2014-03-06 18:16:31 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Crasniya wrote:
Paukinra wrote:
This looks amazing, can't wait until we can paint more ships and I really hope it's possible to overcome that code to allow custom ships...

Please tell me you can overcome the old code? <3


It's not really a code problem. It's a data problem. You allow the skin, everyone who sees the ship has to download it's texture it to their computer. It's also a immersion problem, because they want ships to look like they fit the universe. Giving EVE players complete control of texturing would be a nightmare. So it has to be done in a way that won't allow you to abuse the design too much.

There are ways. For example, divide a ship into 4 different customization areas, like primary color, secondary color, highlight color, and running lights. Then give 16 options for each. The client would already have all options stored in it. Then 2 bytes would tell the client what scheme each ship actually has. Yes, downloading 2 additional bytes per ship when trying to load grid is extra load, but not that much.


^this
Alistair Cononach
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#164 - 2014-03-06 18:16:47 UTC
I strongly support ship skin customization.

NPC skins is a perfect choice for the first step into that realm, and I will support it by painting all my Abaddons.

However, as the program goes forward, I would suggest two things:

-Arum is a dead concept. NPC paint schemes should be sold for Loyalty Points for that Corp.

-"Manufacturing" a painted ship is an overly complicated mechanic for a simple thing. I would strongly suggest the addition of a "Paint" rig slot and paint schemes as "paint rigs" that fit these slots, and hence color the ship accordingly. Simpler, smoother, less complicated, and yet still limit recycling as rigs are destroyed when the ship is, cannot be removed, etc. forstering an active market.

Overall, very glad to see this moving forward.

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TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#165 - 2014-03-06 18:18:41 UTC
how do you pronounce 'nugoeihuvi'?
Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#166 - 2014-03-06 18:20:10 UTC
CCP Legion wrote:
Looking forward to hearing thoughts on this pilot program.

Love it - can't wait for the number of themes to be expanded across a greater number of ships!

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Glasgow Dunlop
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#167 - 2014-03-06 18:20:46 UTC
Id use it if AURUM wasn't anywhere near it, but it is, so pass. Sad

I love the IDEA of it, just not the execution.

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CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#168 - 2014-03-06 18:22:42 UTC
TrouserDeagle wrote:
how do you pronounce 'nugoeihuvi'?


No idea, I just say NOH.

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Dredastttarm
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#169 - 2014-03-06 18:23:10 UTC
After reading the article I shed a tear and thought "It's happening" :3

CAN'T WAIT!

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Silivar Karkun
Doomheim
#170 - 2014-03-06 18:23:24 UTC
it doesnt really need to be based in BPCs and that stuff, thas the problem, if they could extend the code Carbon uses for characters, then it would be able to be used for spaceships, it would allow for a diverse field of colors and model customizations, skins would be saved in the database the same way as player owned clothing....

it means a large amount of coding of course, but would be better than making this a manufacturing process.......
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#171 - 2014-03-06 18:24:20 UTC
Question: If I want to apply one of these BPCs to a ship, does it have to be a packaged ship? If I got an existing ship that happens to be rigged, is that unusable?

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Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#172 - 2014-03-06 18:24:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Warde Guildencrantz
I like these new skins, but I would like to be able to make my own skins.

If there would be an issue with load, have another user's ship only load their pattern if you click "look at". Alternatively you could load the whole field by an option (similar to remove all tags from overview).

Methods of dealing with vulgar/copyrighted skins would be something else, however, and it's understandable to start small.

Strata Maslav wrote:
Skins based on Standing would be fantastic!

I am 9.8 standing with the Angel Cartel and yet the Angel rats still shoot me, I wish someone would send them the memo that I am one of them. Apart from the free Macharials that I received there is no way of knowing that I am held in such high esteem by said faction.

I understand that in its current implementation it is not feasible but if I was able to fly a special ship because of my high standings to a specific faction and able to show my allegiance them that would be amazing!

In this iteration a skin would probably have to be closer to a module. In the same vein that if you don't have a certain skill you can fit a module, if you havent got +8.0 to Angel Cartel you won't be able to fit the "paint job" module.

A coloured Cynabal because of my work for the Angel Cartel and encouraging me to work so I can colour my Mach.

When entering faction warfare you would only be able to colour simple frigates but once you had shown your loyalty to the said faction you would be able to colour cruisers and battleships.

A great way of encouraging progression and loyalty to a faction and being able to show it off to your friends.


yoooooooooooooooooooo

I want to be able to be pals with the guristas!

Only thing is you could take advantage of their not shooting you. I guess if you shot at them they would have to engage you as normally.

But if you helped them kill a missioner? No aggression for you...ITS LIKE THEY ARE SMART OR SOMETHING!!!

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Silivar Karkun
Doomheim
#173 - 2014-03-06 18:26:28 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Question: If I want to apply one of these BPCs to a ship, does it have to be a packaged ship? If I got an existing ship that happens to be rigged, is that unusable?


that's the main problem if its gonna be based in BPCs then it would mean that only packaged ships will be able to receive the paintjob.......

a complete ship customization editor would be better for this idea.....
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#174 - 2014-03-06 18:26:41 UTC
The in game PLEX prices are gonna end up driving me out of the game if CCP keeps introducing all this stuff you can buy for PLEX. Already starting to seem like work to get the ISK for the PLEX I need to fund my accounts. Adding new shinies for PLEX will only make them go up in price.

Not complaining really, just saying. Perhaps CCP should permanently adjust the pricing on their PLEX so more people buy them, in turn, driving the prices down some for them in game.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#175 - 2014-03-06 18:26:51 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
TrouserDeagle wrote:
how do you pronounce 'nugoeihuvi'?


No idea, I just say NOH.


Personally, I use "Nuu-GAY-HYOO-vee".
Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#176 - 2014-03-06 18:26:55 UTC
WTF- where is my Hello Kitty Vagabond CCP?!?
Josef Djugashvilis
#177 - 2014-03-06 18:27:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
I am not sure that I would ever have any of my ships painted, but I am delighted that CCP are making the option available to the players.

Mind you, the Hyperion does look rather good.

Well done CCP.

Edit.

I have already found a use for the freshly painted Hyperion.

As my pc wallpaper.

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#178 - 2014-03-06 18:29:12 UTC
I Love Boobies wrote:
The in game PLEX prices are gonna end up driving me out of the game if CCP keeps introducing all this stuff you can buy for PLEX. Already starting to seem like work to get the ISK for the PLEX I need to fund my accounts. Adding new shinies for PLEX will only make them go up in price.

Not complaining really, just saying. Perhaps CCP should permanently adjust the pricing on their PLEX so more people buy them, in turn, driving the prices down some for them in game.


I doubt CCP will bring the price of PLEX down, but since you can buy Aurum directly it might not be a bad idea to ensure that the amount you get is in line with the amount you get from PLEX --> Aurum conversion.
Yuri Thorpe
Volatile Restability
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#179 - 2014-03-06 18:31:21 UTC
What about faction battleships? Will they work the same? I only ask because of the piorate bs's
TheMercenaryKing
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#180 - 2014-03-06 18:32:26 UTC  |  Edited by: TheMercenaryKing
Why did we go down the whole new ship road instead of a paint slot like rigs or subsystems?

ok scratch that, i seems to have seen a post where this is an easy thing instead of a "true" paint system.