EVE General Discussion

This would have turned out differently had you put officer mods on your ship.

Me too. If it wasn't, I wouldn't have learned how to play EVE. The reason it was fit the way it was because I didn't have the skills to fly it properly. That was the only way I learned. While I still despise Projected Damage, I appreciate what they did. Because I know a lot more than I would have otherwise.

EDIT: yes, it is a joke fit, and I laugh at it myself. If I don't, it just depresses me because I put at least $40 into something that went boom a couple of days later lol.



Nobody's getting mad. We're just trying to push you in the right direction. Asking for ISK isn't good and it won't help your cause. Actually doing something about it will make the difference between a poor experience and a really good learning tool. Take it with a grain of salt, and ignore the "delicious tears" remarks. Believe me, people have come back from losses that will cast a long shadow over the 1.7 bil Paladin you just lost ;)

If you message me in-game, I will be more than glad to help bring you up to speed on what's current in EVE. (:

"Capsuleer Law #1: Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.

Capsuleer Law #2: Don't trust anyone.

Capsuleer Law #3: If in doubt, refer to the first or second laws."

Pretty much covers it.

the 3rd Law should be: When in doubt google it.

p.s. the 1st hit when you google "Rules in eve" states:

hese are based on Akita T's golden rules for new players, originally published on the old forums:

You consent to PvP when you click "undock".
You are not safe in 1.0 security space. CONCORD is there to punish, not to protect. Get used to the idea.
In most cases, the only way to be 100% safe from agression inside the game is to be docked in a station. Being cloaked in a secret safespot could work too.
Never fly something (or with something in the cargo) you can't afford to lose. Yes, not even in highsec.
Never grant corporation rights to stuff you can't afford to lose either. No exceptions.
People offering free stuff? Probably traps. Be cautious.
Free stuff usually isn't. Not even minerals you mine yourself.
If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Paranoia pays off here. Double-check everything.
Scamming and unethical behaviour some would consider griefing is not only allowed, it is encouraged and rewarded by the game mechanics.
Harrasment or real-life threats however aren't, and you can get a shiny ban for them. Learn the difference.
If you lose stuff, it's almost always your fault. Really, only yours.
More expensive stuff is not always better stuff.
Slightly better stuff usually costs many times more as slightly worse stuff. Choose wisely.
T2 is usually cheaper and better as best named, but harder to fit. Sometimes it's not better. Other times it's not cheaper. And occasionally, neither cheaper nor better.
Showinfo and Variants->Compare are your best friends. Use it on all stuff you can.
There is always heavy lag in Jita and other trade hubs. But then again, you almost always find what you might need there, and can get better prices for the stuff you want to sell fast. So, it might be worth the risk of getting stuck there. Just know you could get stuck there.
Just having ISK doesn't matter all that much, it's making ISK that's important. If you bought your ISK (either "illegally" from some site, or from a valid GTC trade), expect to soon be parted with all of them.
Total skillpoints count doesn't matter much either, it's level of relevant skills to the current situation that does. Yes, that does mean a 2 mil SP combat-oriented newbie could badly beat up a 60 mil SP industry-oriented veteran.
Alwayscheck your clone before you undock.
Always check your ship insurance before you undock. If it's a T2 ship however... not that important.
There are no "solopwnmobiles" in EVE. Everything you can fly blows up if it's shot hard enough.
All other things being equal (experience, skills), superior numbers more often win a fight rather than superior ship value. However, things are hardly ever equal.
There is no such thing as "a fair fight" or "an unfair fight". There's only "a fight". Circumstances are irrelevant.
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
Just because you can fly something doesn't mean you should.
With enough skills and experience, ship size really doesn't matter all that much.
If you logoff in space without a PvP timer, you're only safe after 2 minutes... and then only until you log back in. If you logoff with a PvP timer, it's at least 15 minutes. Bottom line, once a fight started, don't logoff. You'll only die anyway.
If you PvP long enough, you will lose your ship. It's only a matter of where and when.
Just because some character is just a few minutes old doesn't mean he's a newbie. Many people have alts. The reverse is also possible, people come back after very long breaks, and characters are sold. You could see year-old newbies around too.
Skills that take less than 1 day to train are short skills. Over one week is long.
You're in this game for the long haul. Don't expect to do something meaningful in the grand scheme of things in the first day of your first trial account ever.

not only a lack of skill, but also a lack of game knowledge

1- faction weapons are not worth the cost, use meta 4 or T2
2- stacking penaltys, your low slots show 4 BCS, 3 is the max, the 4th doesn't bring anything (maybe 5-10 dps) => stick a damage control
3- no prop, imao a big mistake, can help you put some dist vs the rats, and close gates faster
4-2 SBA are OK, but you have no shield booster fittted, plus the one in your cargo is wrong, want a Xlarge on a BS
5- now the resists, you want a pve boat, so you will encounter specific rats, and you know wich damage to tank (2 max, so 1 invuln + 1 specific hardener for each damage, switch according to mission), also now you have a free low, put a DC2 in there, 12.5% resist with no stack penalty, plus will help you big time if you get overwhelmed
6- that flux coil is ugly, and you won't be cap stable anyway, if something, use a powerdiag, that will help your cap and passive recharge giving you a tad more tank

now, this gives you resists up to 70-75% in the worst case scenario, I.E against sansha, which deal EM / THerm your natural weak points, toping to a 875+ dps tank, since you are cruise, i'll advise using a micro jump drive, and there is no way at that disatance, you will ever encounter that much DPS in a LVL4

you might need a co pro instead of a powerdiag if you don't have cpu implants

i saw afterward that this kill was rather old, and guessed you might have been updated about it already, but just in case, and because other ppl might wonder what is wrong, i felt it would be good for them to actually have an explanation about it

wrong.

I'd rather have people begging than people scamming. At least I can be a jerk and tell the beggar to get a job ;)

Then I can put him on ignore and never have to worry about it. The only way to avoid scammers is to never login.

my DPS on that megathron when i first got it? 335.. 335 DPS, guess how long it took to finish a mission..

As bad as your initial mistake of losing that ship was, I think making this topic might have been an even bigger one.

Also, even just what dropped from your wreck, is worth many times over my entire combined assets.