Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Since Cynos are still a hot topic, I decided to put forth the basis of another fleeting idea I had while it's in my head, I haven't completely thought it through so this is more of a discussion about how to balance such an idea rather than find out if you like it or not.

What if we separated cynos in to 2 types. One that is meant for bridging, and one that is meant for jump drives to lock on to and jump to. The bridging cyno would be more like a temporary portal which includes a mass limit (mass limit increasing based on the relevant skill such as cyno field theory) and once the mass of ships that has passed through it has reached the limit, the portal collapses. The ship that lit the "Bridging Portal" would still have his 60 second cooldown before reopening/relighting another beacon/portal. And the ship opening the bridge also has it's normal cooldown on bridging.

Without taking in to account multiple cyno/portal opening ships, this would limit the ability to just mop the floor by dropping everything you have at once. Instead you would need to decide who and what ships to send first, or organise squads accordingly and coordinate multiple cynos and bridges.

The same mass limit could be applied to regular cynos for capital ships.

I don't know what mass numbers to begin with for the bridging portal, maybe start with a base of 5 cruisers at skill level 1, and up to around 12-15 cruisers at max level.

This will still allow you to dominate the 2 drakes sitting at a gate looking like a pair of drongos, but any decent size gang and you have to think twice about what ships to send in first or get creative with multiple portals. It also provides more of an incentive to roam more in decent size gangs, rather than have 143 people sit on a titan with 1 lone cyno ship doing the actual flying.

And lastly, what if the Portal worked 2 ways just like a wormhole? How many bridges will we see if the targets can jump right on through to your bridging ship, and throw you a surprise party?

GG out.

But a cyno is just a beacon. How can a beacon have a mass limit?

Ok befor reading, this Post will contain the words "Cyno" "better" and "World of Warcraft" so prepare your Anus!

I dunno if World of Warcraft did keep the requirements because i did only play Vanilla WoW but if anyone can remember the Warlock can summon other players but not alone.

So its interessting that such a simply game needs more player interaction then Eve Online, i think the Basic mechanic of Cynos isnt that Broken its the Beacon itself, because ONE Ship can bring a whole Fleet at once.

Wouldnt it be better to increase the requirements to atleast 3 ships that maybe also need some kind of specific triangulation so that the Fleet really jump into the same pocket.

I believe Cyno baits should be nerfed so that only CovOps Ships can bridge with one ship. (with a bacon yum)

Well that's the idea, isn't it?

As long as we're talking about increasing the risk and making more assets required for jump travel, I've never really been sure I like the notion that a quick little ship like a Covops or a ceptor or even a basic T1 frig can rain down an entire titan-backed fleet onto somone's head all by itself.

I'm of the feeling that cyno generators should really be restricted to cruiser-size and above. Combine that with mass limits on how much the Titan's bridge (it's a wormhole generator, folks, and wormholes have mass limits) can safely transfer per activation and you'll see a sudden need to field multiple cruisers/recons in order to get anything moved around.

I like the idea of having mass limits on a cyno so that you'd have to deploy more cynos or light multiple cynos to get more numbers on field. What I like about this is that the idea is simple, yet robust and flexible. It doesn't really change the way people would move in peace times, but dropping very large fleets on top of an enemy would require a bit more coordination and planning, which I can cetainly get behind.

+1

^^ THIS makes more sense to me than anything else.

The idea that something as powerful as a portal generator, capable of granting access to enormous amounts of ship mega-tonnage, should fit neatly on a noob frigate....
....or really, any frigate....
feels like an idea that should be reconsidered, in my opinion.

Thank you for mentioning redundant cyno's on the first wave. I was hoping someone would note that...

Just to mess with your minds a bit though, isn't bringing essentially a wormhole generator through a wormhole a little close to dividing by 0 for anyone else? Suddenly new EVE gate.

That said. I don't think I'd be adverse to cyno's requiring Crusier hulls to be fit... I'll have to pass that idea around a bit.

If the goal is to nerf bridging without removing it all together, why not just make it so the Titan has to jump through at the end of bridging?