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Any other capsuleers in here are gamers?

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Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-11-22 09:53:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Mekhana
I dunno if it's the same outside the Federation, but gaming is a very popular form of entertainment around here.

When I was a kid the new big thing was hands free control schemes and interfaces, cutting down the number of hardware and peripherals and at the same time increasing player immersion.

Right now though, immersion has taken a whole new level. The game actually brings you in into the action. I like to play this shooter a lot called 'Absolute Warfare'. Basically it let's you customize an in game avatar from the smallest details from cosmetics to in game abilities. A good example of how gaming has advanced well in these years is at this particular stage. You and some commandos are infiltrating this Caldari facility to rescue one of your team mates before he can break and reveal details about the President's campaign tour that would endanger his life and start a new war.

The part that you bust into the interrogation. The life likeness of it is just amazing. I stormed in the room, rail rifle blazing, I could barely keep aiming down the sight as it kicked violently with every squeeze. Particularly, there was this Caldari soldier that appeared in this massive exo-skeleton. The rail rifle was just too powerful for his armor. Basically his entire torso got sucked out of the exit hole.

Such emphasis is put on realism and of making your senses perceive everything as life like as possible. Very different from that older alternative from a few decades ago that would administrate dosages of boosters in order to force you into thinking everything was real. That was outlawed very quickly, even by Federation standards.

These games in the end provide a way to unwind and sort of unplug myself from my worries and responsibilities from the real world. I think they are a very interesting and healthy hobby.

Vide longe er eros di Luminaire VII, uni canse pra krage e determiniex! Sange por Sange! Descanse bravex eros, mie freires. Mortir por vostre Liberete, farmilie, ide e amis. lons Proviste sen mort! Luminaire liber mas! 

Mikkel Lybecker
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-11-22 10:40:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Mikkel Lybecker
You could always spot the gamers in Pator Tech. They were the ones who'd attend lectures only for the first month just so they could meet gamer friends and then you'd never hear from them again except when they came back into the lab occasionally to pilfer bits of wiring and holo-projection materials.

Maybe one day I'll get into it when I have the time but these days I don't have time to scratch myself, so when I do get rare leisure time I want to spend it doing something that doesn't resemble my actual work quite so much (i.e looking at holoscreens all day, and occasionally shooting things). Would rather spend it socialising, or reading, or cooking... pretty much anything but. Maybe it's something for when I retire. Or maybe I'll just keep on having a life. Who knows.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-11-22 10:45:39 UTC
Having spent a lot of time during my early career in both the Minmatar Republic and the Caldari State, I can confirm that gaming is big in the State and pretty popular in the Republic too. Just like you'd expect from a megacapitalist entity like the State, they've turned it into a billion ISK business (and that doesn't sound like much to us, I know, but think how much that is in planetary currency!). Obviously, as one might expect, Nugoeihuvi runs the roost. They've got video games of just about every genre and every platform. Action, strategy, adventure, roleplaying games, puzzles, in all sorts of settings and styles. Hyasyoda and Ishukone both have a small foothold in the market as well. Their games aren't anywhere near as popular as NOH titles but they actually do pretty well on the export market to the Federation and the Republic. Kaalakiota makes a few games, but they're very unpopular, even in the State - despite being fervently patriotic, they're very poorly made (for a Kaalakiota product), have poor end-user support and are nearly unplayable. Seriously, I know that as a capsuleer, the amount of money you'd spend on it could be made back by literally doing nothing for an hour, but avoid Epic Liberator. I've heard Provists complain about how the patriotism being overdone.

Yes, you heard me, Provists were complaining about excessive patriotism in this game.

That said, despite being viciously pragmatic about its market, NOH does put out some genuine gems from time to time. I can highly recommend Tri-Kama, Heartland of K'vire, CEO's Guard and Nightmare Star. Ishukone has a couple of diamonds in the rough with the Othersign series and Interstellar 530. Hyasyoda has the... odd K'nai's Super Rigorous Adventure Happenstance!. It's... very hard to describe, but... pick it up anyway. You won't find anything quite like it anywhere in the universe.

In the Republic, The Leisure Group handles things, either as a developer, or as a publisher-distributor. Their games are definitely more violent and raw than anything you'll find on the shelves of a Caldari games store, but they don't skimp on their production values. A lot of Minmatar video games are bloody, vicious and objectionable, yes, but that's because the subject matter they depict really is bloody, vicious and objectionable. They're also pretty damn difficult - everyone else in the game is getting punished, so why not the player? If you're "hardcore", as they say, you might want to try games like Thunder and Stone or Kenassi's Journey.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-11-22 11:58:24 UTC
Maybe this is a bit of a hopeless question but do the Amarr actually play video games?

Vide longe er eros di Luminaire VII, uni canse pra krage e determiniex! Sange por Sange! Descanse bravex eros, mie freires. Mortir por vostre Liberete, farmilie, ide e amis. lons Proviste sen mort! Luminaire liber mas! 

Kurama Bingyi
Doomheim
#5 - 2011-11-22 12:00:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Kurama Bingyi
What you may call interactive entertainment, we call simulation. A Khanid, alone, is trained throughout their youth and young-adult lives on endless hours of simulations and virtual scenarios. It enables us to become better pilots. We do not utilize these simulations for entertainment beyond competition amongst rivals.

Whether or not the same is true across the Empire, I cannot tell you.

"Nay," responded Kurama Bingyi, "to crush your enemies, to see them fall at your feet - to take their horses and goods and hear the lamentation of their women. That is best."

Kentt Em'asep
Clone Red Creations
#6 - 2011-11-22 12:19:40 UTC
One of the ways I relaxe when I am not planetside is video games. Defiantly good to do when your wanting to kill time, or like Mr Bingyi had said, to help improve reflex. But video/ simulation games can only do so much compared to the real thing.

But yea... when I want to forget about being a capsulear pilot I turn to my games.

~"That's right. Today, tomorrow, the next day, and the day after that, and the day after that... from here on until forever, every time you look at my avatar - you'll see this scowl."~

~"Forever?"~

~"Yes - forever. It's what I do."~

Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#7 - 2011-11-22 14:58:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyn Farel
Mekhana wrote:
Maybe this is a bit of a hopeless question but do the Amarr actually play video games?


Some do.

The Khanid case is a little different, and as said above from what I have witnessed they have a strong Caldari influence in that regard blended to highly traditionnal by-products tied to the cyberknight culture. A majority of the titles you will find are mostly centered around cyberpunk themes or chivalry.

In the Amarr Empire, like for most of the entertainement market and medias, everything is subject to censorship and general appliance to the orthodox mindset and the Imperial Trade Registry, which sometimes severely limits what kind of virtual games people can find. "Gaming" is also not very "big" in the Amarrian traditions to my opinion, and is mostly a niche market. People will of course find the traditionnal educative religious games developped for children, much like you will find educative consumerist games for children in the Federation, for example (to each nation its politically oriented education). A lot of foreign games that reach somehow the inner market are also often partially remade or rearranged.

But you can also find very, very deep and incredibly complex (or complex by a sheer simplicity) strategy games or virtual tabletop games that are quite popular among the whole Amarrian spectrum, be it between slaves, commoners, merchants, or Holders. Of course, their "coating" can vary greatly between all these social castes, but the shared passion remains and it is not always unusual to see for example a Holder playing with a close slave, especially between Holder's children and housekeeper slaves. Most of them are usually tied to very ancient card or pawn games, but with the appearance of the 3 other major cultures of the cluster, I think that the general Amarrian gaming market is currently at a turning point.

Generally not considered for children though, it is not uncommon to see a lot of Amarrians very reluctant to usual video games. I personally remember a roleplaying game partially based on the famous "Plantation" play (with the same name) that I had the occasion to play (secretly) when I was a child, which I really recommend for its originality (it is quite unusual to find true amarrian roleplaying games, khanid ones excepted), the depth of the story, its surprising neutrality and its description of the society without any embarassment. This game did not get a very good reception, especially by Amarrian authorities, often judged "too crude" or "biased" (when it was actually not), or even on the fringe of heresy when it came to play a slave with his own doubts about the institution of slavery and the system itself.
Simon Coal
Comstock Daze
#8 - 2011-11-23 06:43:48 UTC
I'm a bit of a junkie for an Amarrian game called 'By Their Sides'. The graphics are extremely archaic, with almost no moving elements; I think they were actually largely hand drawn. It puts the player in the shoes of a community through various turning points in Amarrian history on their homeworld. Successful completion relies on a mix of familiarity with Amarrian scripture and history, and on acting in ways that line up with their virtues and values. It's complicated, has immense replay value and offers some interesting insights into the mind of the Empire.

I'm not sure if it was sold domestically, though. Seems like a perfect game for trying to soft-sell some conversions. Regardless, I think it's worth a look.

Kithrus
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#9 - 2011-11-23 06:47:40 UTC
I've tried mind clash but mostly to strengthen mental prowess and not so much for entertainment though I'd be lying if I said I haven't had fun.

Aside from gaming as a whole I don't have time.

Darkness is more then absence of light, it is ignorance and corruption. I will be the Bulwark from such things that you may live in the light. Pray so my arms do not grow weary and my footing remain sure.

If you are brave, join me in the dark.

Kel hound
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2011-11-23 11:39:40 UTC
I have to admit, when I was back in the academy the EVA combat simulator was a personal favourite of mine. I think by the time I graduated I'd clocked up some 100+ hours on the damn thing. Its really a wonder I managed to graduate at all really but I loved the sense of freedom. My favourite sim's were the ones that had you fighting for a station or ship in orbit over a terrestrial planet. The sense of vertigo as you looked down at the blue and green world beneath your feet was just unbeatable.
Where ever I go now as a capsuler I always make sure to bring a mindlink copy of the simulator. I've still yet to find anything else able to beat the feeling of floating through the void with just a combat spacesuit and railgun for company. Of course these days I mostly have to play against bots, I havent met many other people who share my passion for zero-g infantry combat since my academy days.

Other than that I love a good game of Frozen Mindlink. Its a tactical game where you direct the movements of small squad of soldiers in small blocks of time. You plan your squads moves and actions for about 5 seconds then when your happy with your decisions you execute your plan and the game runs the time block to find out what happens. Its important to note that you only "see" where the enemy is if you have eyes on them so you need to think your turn through carefully. When you cant see your opponents troops you get to play with some "ghost" images of your foe's forces. This lets you run multiple "what if" scenarios before committing to a plan.
The graphics are very simple and stylised but the game has near infinite depth thanks to a random generator that makes every scenario different.

Another game I love to play is Homeworlds. Its not a digital game, rather you play with a deck of cards and some plastic pieces. When playing the game you take on the role of a galactic civilisation using pyramid pieces to represent ships, star systems. Its hard to describe with out the pieces on hand but its fairly easy to learn and quite difficult to master. I have a copy of the rules floating around somewhere if anyone is interested.
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#11 - 2011-11-23 19:44:24 UTC
I hear rumors of a capsuleer-only "Mindclash" league starting, which would prove most interesting.

Farel's assessment of Amarrian gaming is quite astute. I would add that for many, the traditional, physical 'board games' are still quite popular. Grids of squares with tiny carved pieces representing armies or soldiers. Great games of old that that nobility used to play to train the mind for tactical thinking.




Sabik now, Sabik forever

Aylara v'Char
Doomheim
#12 - 2011-11-25 19:08:20 UTC
I'm a pretty serious gamer, myself. I'll admit to having disrupted Bosena station security for hours last time I set up a team-vs-team AR combat match in the corridors with my crew and some old friends. Sometimes a holo interface just doesn't give enough of a rush, you know? I've been replaying Covert Recon 3 lately, trying out the stealth approach rather than diving in guns-blazing. My guilty pleasure is Son of Kronar. There's just something about barbarian swordfighting that's just way too much fun.
Tiara Sikai
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2011-11-26 08:29:43 UTC
Simon Coal wrote:
I'm a bit of a junkie for an Amarrian game called 'By Their Sides'. The graphics are extremely archaic, with almost no moving elements; I think they were actually largely hand drawn. It puts the player in the shoes of a community through various turning points in Amarrian history on their homeworld. Successful completion relies on a mix of familiarity with Amarrian scripture and history, and on acting in ways that line up with their virtues and values. It's complicated, has immense replay value and offers some interesting insights into the mind of the Empire.


I've played that game past the point any adult should admit to it - I have half a mind to obtain a copy to wile away my personal hours. Even though I know the correct and / or historically taken choices by heart, It is just amazing how much time and effort was put even into the false paths, and how an erorr in an early stage can ripple forward to destructive ends later on - or how it can later be corrected by decisive and painful actions when appropriate.

Really, this game taught me about our culture as much as the best sermons and amonishions, since it not simply warns you off false choices, but shows their effects in a very convincing and eye-opening fashion.
Daniel L'Siata
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#14 - 2011-11-26 09:24:37 UTC
I'm a Mindclash player, always good fun to brutally stomp people. The AR games can also be a blast, especially when you get the station staff IN on it.

Other than that, I'm quite a fan of the latest Caldari strategy offerings, some very well thought out titles in there, I heartily recommend Jovian Onslaught, even if the name and storyline make me want to cry.

And you can't go wrong with Chess.
Mortimer Montfort
Doomheim
#15 - 2011-11-27 08:53:10 UTC
My own favourite is game where there are three main components; humans, coloured dots and alcohol.

It's a favourite of ours, mainly at parties. You'll see why...

It involves a small plastic sheet with a series of green, yellow, red and blue dots in rows. You then have to spin the spinner, which serves as a die for the game, depending on where it points, you have to place one of your limbs on the corresponding coloured dots. Multiple people can play at once, often meaning that people are placed in precarious or perverse positions. The player that falls or who's elbow or knee touches the matt is out.

This game is often played at ours, naked with much alcohol.
Astrid Stjerna
Sebiestor Tribe
#16 - 2011-11-28 07:51:05 UTC
Daniel L'Siata wrote:
I'm a Mindclash player, always good fun to brutally stomp people. The AR games can also be a blast, especially when you get the station staff IN on it.

Other than that, I'm quite a fan of the latest Caldari strategy offerings, some very well thought out titles in there, I heartily recommend Jovian Onslaught, even if the name and storyline make me want to cry.

And you can't go wrong with Chess.


Back when I was in training, we used an AR system for live exercises -- defending a ship from a boarding party, retaking a station, that kind of thing. Adding a 'human' element to the scenario made it a much better exercise -- with the holosims, even the least-intuitive members of my squad figured out the AI's response patterns after a while.

Never tried AR as games, though I've seen a few. And I've never really had the capacity to sit through a chess match.

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Zanziba'ar
Blood Raider Marauders
Blood Raider Shipyards
#17 - 2011-11-28 20:41:55 UTC
Mekhana wrote:
Maybe this is a bit of a hopeless question but do the Amarr actually play video games?



I like this post. Do the Amarr do anything other than pray, read books and write long boring scriptures?
  • Mulzvich "Zanziba'ar" Gorath
Astrid Stjerna
Sebiestor Tribe
#18 - 2011-11-28 23:29:03 UTC
Zanziba'ar wrote:
Mekhana wrote:
Maybe this is a bit of a hopeless question but do the Amarr actually play video games?



I like this post. Do the Amarr do anything other than pray, read books and write long boring scriptures?


Well, I'm sure they pray about reading books filled with long, boring scriptures....

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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#19 - 2011-11-28 23:55:09 UTC
Zanziba'ar wrote:
Mekhana wrote:
Maybe this is a bit of a hopeless question but do the Amarr actually play video games?



I like this post. Do the Amarr do anything other than pray, read books and write long boring scriptures?


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