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We Love Our Cars Here in America...
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stoicfaux
#1 - 2014-03-05 12:50:59 UTC
And America’s Most Gridlocked Cities Are…
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Top 10 most gridlocked cities in the U.S. 2013:

1. Los Angeles, Calif. Commuters spent an average 64 hours in traffic.
2. Honolulu, Hawaii. 60 hours.
3. San Francisco, Calif. 56 hours.
4. Austin, Texas. 41 hours.
5. New York, N.Y. 53 hours.
6. Bridgeport, Conn. 42 hours.
7. San José, Calif. 37 hours.
8. Seattle, Wash. 37 hours.
9. Boston, Mass. 38 hours.
10. Washington, D.C. 40 hours.

64 hours / 7 days = 9.1 hours a day spent in your car...


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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#2 - 2014-03-05 13:19:44 UTC
No problem for me. I got rid of my car in 1995 when I moved somewhere I didn't need one. San Francisco.

It's not the cars that are America's problem. It's the lack of any interest in public transportation. LA got rid of it's public transportation, the best in the world, back in the 40's to build all those freeways.

All the land allocated for the Interstate Highway System is used up, and there is not any real way to add anymore, so we are stuck with what we have, and it's going to do nothing but get worse.

this situation was caused by one thing: an utter lack of long-term thinking, and planning. It was all just a money grab for a small group of people. Sure turned out fun did it not?

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#3 - 2014-03-05 20:11:20 UTC
NYC doesn't have a very good excuse for all of the cars on the street. There are a lot of public transportation modes feeding into the city, and once you're there, you have a good subway and bus system. Maybe it's because of the expensive train tickets. Buying tickets for 2 adults and a kid over 12 can cost as much or more than just driving directly to your destination and paying for parking.

Something sounds very inefficient about that. Riding a train that can carry 1,000-1,200 passengers, and having to do some transfers and walking at the end, costs as much as driving an individual 4-passenger vehicle.
unidenify
Deaf Armada
#4 - 2014-03-05 20:14:59 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
And America’s Most Gridlocked Cities Are…
Quote:
Top 10 most gridlocked cities in the U.S. 2013:

1. Los Angeles, Calif. Commuters spent an average 64 hours in traffic.
2. Honolulu, Hawaii. 60 hours.
3. San Francisco, Calif. 56 hours.
4. Austin, Texas. 41 hours.
5. New York, N.Y. 53 hours.
6. Bridgeport, Conn. 42 hours.
7. San José, Calif. 37 hours.
8. Seattle, Wash. 37 hours.
9. Boston, Mass. 38 hours.
10. Washington, D.C. 40 hours.

64 hours / 7 days = 9.1 hours a day spent in your car...




it state each year, not each week

Quote:
On average, drivers in the ten most traffic-jammed cities spent 47 hours — more than a typical working week — behind the wheels each year.


assume that average person work 46 weeks with 6 week holiday, and 4.8 days per week due to random holiday for total 220 days of work.

then we can assume that average time per day in traffic is 30 min for LA.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#5 - 2014-03-05 21:13:56 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#6 - 2014-03-05 21:51:41 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
NYC doesn't have a very good excuse for all of the cars on the street. There are a lot of public transportation modes feeding into the city, and once you're there, you have a good subway and bus system. Maybe it's because of the expensive train tickets. Buying tickets for 2 adults and a kid over 12 can cost as much or more than just driving directly to your destination and paying for parking.

Something sounds very inefficient about that. Riding a train that can carry 1,000-1,200 passengers, and having to do some transfers and walking at the end, costs as much as driving an individual 4-passenger vehicle.


The problem in Manhattan now is it's so packed full of the 1% who will never stoop to riding a subway or bus.

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Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#7 - 2014-03-05 22:49:24 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
NYC doesn't have a very good excuse for all of the cars on the street. There are a lot of public transportation modes feeding into the city, and once you're there, you have a good subway and bus system. Maybe it's because of the expensive train tickets. Buying tickets for 2 adults and a kid over 12 can cost as much or more than just driving directly to your destination and paying for parking.


That's not completely true. Robert Moses made it easy to get to and from midtown. But when my brother lived in Astoria and taught in Brooklyn, even though the commute was only a few miles as the crow files, he had to take a train to midtown, and then take another train all the way back out to get to school. He got around it by doing all his class prep on the morning train, and his grading on the afternoon train.

NYC could do with a lot more cross-borough trains, and trains from e.g., Penn Station to JFK and LaGuardia would take a fair number of cabs off the streets as well.

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#8 - 2014-03-06 16:54:37 UTC
Dersen Lowery wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
NYC doesn't have a very good excuse for all of the cars on the street. There are a lot of public transportation modes feeding into the city, and once you're there, you have a good subway and bus system. Maybe it's because of the expensive train tickets. Buying tickets for 2 adults and a kid over 12 can cost as much or more than just driving directly to your destination and paying for parking.


That's not completely true. Robert Moses made it easy to get to and from midtown. But when my brother lived in Astoria and taught in Brooklyn, even though the commute was only a few miles as the crow files, he had to take a train to midtown, and then take another train all the way back out to get to school. He got around it by doing all his class prep on the morning train, and his grading on the afternoon train.

NYC could do with a lot more cross-borough trains, and trains from e.g., Penn Station to JFK and LaGuardia would take a fair number of cabs off the streets as well.

Yeah, that's very true. There's no easy way to go north-south or vice versa in Brooklyn and Queens. The company I work for moved from Manhattan to Forest Hills, Queens, and some employees who live in Brooklyn just quit rather than do the commute. The Brooklyn people who didn't spend 1 to 1.5 hours commuting one-way. The distance is just about 12 miles as the crow flies, but it takes that long, either by public transit or by car.
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-03-06 17:37:26 UTC
Fight gridlock, ride a Ducati. Seriously though, I can usually get home in about 10 mins during rush hour. With Bay Area traffic being what it is, it takes me almost an hour doing the same drive in a car.

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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#10 - 2014-03-06 19:40:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Jandice Ymladris
Come to Belgium! We got the most traffick jammed cities in the world! Yus, our tiny country actually occupies place 1 (Brussels) and 2 (Antwerp)

Here's an article on Forbes about the most traffic-packed cities in the world: The World's Most Traffic-Congested Cities

PS: time spent yearly in traffick on average by drivers in those cities is about 85 hours (lil more in Brussels, little less in Antwerp)

Odd thing is, they're not even very large cities to start with. Compared to some of the other cities on that list, they're outright small.

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Grymmstorm
Kings of Groth
#11 - 2014-03-06 20:04:56 UTC
unidenify wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
And America’s Most Gridlocked Cities Are…
Quote:
Top 10 most gridlocked cities in the U.S. 2013:

1. Los Angeles, Calif. Commuters spent an average 64 hours in traffic.
2. Honolulu, Hawaii. 60 hours.
3. San Francisco, Calif. 56 hours.
4. Austin, Texas. 41 hours.
5. New York, N.Y. 53 hours.
6. Bridgeport, Conn. 42 hours.
7. San José, Calif. 37 hours.
8. Seattle, Wash. 37 hours.
9. Boston, Mass. 38 hours.
10. Washington, D.C. 40 hours.

64 hours / 7 days = 9.1 hours a day spent in your car...




it state each year, not each week

Quote:
On average, drivers in the ten most traffic-jammed cities spent 47 hours — more than a typical working week — behind the wheels each year.


assume that average person work 46 weeks with 6 week holiday, and 4.8 days per week due to random holiday for total 220 days of work.

then we can assume that average time per day in traffic is 30 min for LA.



The sad part is, I spend twice that in the mornings and three times that in the afternoons. Over two and a half hours a day in traffic. And I only live twenty miles from work.
Eli Green
The Arrow Project
#12 - 2014-03-06 22:45:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Eli Green
I always do feel sorry/laugh at the people driving in Toronto when I keep up to their pace while walking.

Nowhere near as bad as NYC and the like, but still an issue nonetheless.

wumbo
Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-03-07 01:53:38 UTC
Tokyo on a friday night at the start of a national holiday.

Now thats some jam going on there.

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stoicfaux
#14 - 2014-03-07 02:12:16 UTC
unidenify wrote:

it state each year, not each week

assume that average person work 46 weeks with 6 week holiday, and 4.8 days per week due to random holiday for total 220 days of work.

then we can assume that average time per day in traffic is 30 min for LA.

Those numbers are incredibly low then. I don't know what the article used for data, but here in Atlanta, it takes me ~one hour for a a 30 mile (46km) reverse commute. (1.25 to 2 hours on bad days.) When I finally break free of the traffic and hit 70mph (110kph,) I see 5+ miles (8km) of people jammed up heading in the opposite direction.

And one hour commutes are just about average for Atlanta, last I heard.

I, for one, question the article's methodology.

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Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#15 - 2014-03-07 04:13:15 UTC
i sometimes get held up on the way to work by herds of deer crossing the road. doubly sucks when i get stuck at the railroad crossing right after Sad
stoicfaux
#16 - 2014-03-07 12:58:34 UTC
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
i sometimes get held up on the way to work by herds of deer crossing the road. doubly sucks when i get stuck at the railroad crossing right after Sad

Deer are afraid of loud noises, i.e. gunshots. Trains, however, are not.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#17 - 2014-03-07 13:04:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
stoicfaux wrote:


I, for one, question the article's methodology.



Correct methodology or not does not preclude the fact that the congestion is bad and getting worse.

When we lived in the burbs in Houston, my dad had to drive across town completely, using the freeways, so he would encounter the traffic heading into town, then the traffic heading out of town to workplaces on the west side.

The whole thing took 90 minutes, twice a day. On the freeways.

And that was in 1978. I can't even think what it's like now.

Geez, he did that every day for 6 years straight. Ugh.

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jason hill
Red vs Blue Flight Academy
#18 - 2014-03-08 16:08:04 UTC
mwhahaahhahahha I can fkn walk to work .... although I don't cos im a lazy b`stard .... get out your car you fat American gits and bloody walk ...bloody lazy sods Big smile
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#19 - 2014-03-08 16:15:23 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
unidenify wrote:

it state each year, not each week

assume that average person work 46 weeks with 6 week holiday, and 4.8 days per week due to random holiday for total 220 days of work.

then we can assume that average time per day in traffic is 30 min for LA.

Those numbers are incredibly low then. I don't know what the article used for data, but here in Atlanta, it takes me ~one hour for a a 30 mile (46km) reverse commute. (1.25 to 2 hours on bad days.) When I finally break free of the traffic and hit 70mph (110kph,) I see 5+ miles (8km) of people jammed up heading in the opposite direction.

And one hour commutes are just about average for Atlanta, last I heard.

I, for one, question the article's methodology.



Remember it speaks about average time, so the time people (not only you, but everyone) spend in traffic not only a peak hours (wich is undoubtly alot more then 30 min) but also on offpeak hours. So it includes every timeperiod & day, including the days with small/little trafficjams. What the article doesn't say is when somethin'gs considered a trafficjam, the time spend NOT moving? or moving below a certain speed (makes alot of difference)

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MutnantRebel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2014-03-09 07:13:30 UTC  |  Edited by: MutnantRebel
stoicfaux wrote:
And America’s Most Gridlocked Cities Are…
Quote:
Top 10 most gridlocked cities in the U.S. 2013:

1. Los Angeles, Calif. Commuters spent an average 64 hours in traffic.
2. Honolulu, Hawaii. 60 hours.
3. San Francisco, Calif. 56 hours.
4. Austin, Texas. 41 hours.
5. New York, N.Y. 53 hours.
6. Bridgeport, Conn. 42 hours.
7. San José, Calif. 37 hours.
8. Seattle, Wash. 37 hours.
9. Boston, Mass. 38 hours.
10. Washington, D.C. 40 hours.

64 hours / 7 days = 9.1 hours a day spent in your car...




I knew L.A. was ahead of us in bad traffic, but I thought we were AT LEAST #3 LOL. Apparently I need to be happy that the millions of morons on our roads aren't as bad as Honolulu!

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