Player Features and Ideas Discussion

It hasn't been a myth since Turing devised his test. Ever since then, people will work for years and years and spend tremendous amounts of resources to build computers that can beat humans at various tasks selected for their AI difficulty--and every time a computer is made to beat a task, the task is updated quickly or a new one is swiftly devised by a single person that once again defeats the machine.

There's no practical limit to what things an AI can do, but crafting one to best a human at the things humans do best is extremely difficult to accomplish yet all too easy to topple.

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Sure it was. Of course, since Traditional Chess leans so strongly in favor of the AI, the rules had to be changed so dramatically that you wouldn't call it Chess. But it can be played with the same board and pieces.

Chess is a terrible example because of all human games, Chess is one of the ones that AI can beat humans at most easily. It is a game in which in many situations, only a handful of millions of possible outcomes can result in victory, and the setup is easy for a computer to understand. Pick almost any other game and a computer has a harder time beating humans at it.


One. Like with probes and the new hacking mechanic. I don't know how well the new hacking mechanic will stand up against bots but I do know there aren't any good probe bots, and the reason for that is that they don't have the spacial reasoning to contemplate the symbols the server sends, and even if they were integrated well enough into the client to read the probe map as it is rendered, they still would only be able to scan down sites that had already reached a yellow signal strength.

Why not simply add a Window every time you Start mining where you have to choose a ore vein by clicking (which position apears random on the window) or something, nothing special just to make mining hardly Botable.

"Aktiv" Mining was already suggested many times befor, and the infamous Hacking Game did show that most miners dont want go in that kind of direction, so we simply need another solution.

Only allow 1 active login from 1 IP adress. Problem solved. No more mutli acccounting, more fair play.
Oh wait, CCP encourages mutli accounting...

Anyone behind a NAT of any kind, and anyone behind a shared private/public router would be sharing their IP with others.

Did you think that through or just spew it out of a random orifice?

What about the people who use several accounts at the same time for a wide variety of things, including boosters for fleets, scouts for fleets, market PVP, industrial stuff excluding mining, Plex/Ano/Mission running? This idea has been suggested in a separate topic already and it was utterly demolished there. For the exact same reasons. Any more nice ideas on how to not solve issues?

As discussed in other threads multi-boxing and alts are valid game tools that present their own challenges. I have no real problem with them either way as long as a one char player with 2 alts can conceivably plex on their own by smart play/use of industry. As long as that takes some skill and knowledge then its fair either way.

When it comes to being a booster character, good luck finding one, who wants to sit on a safe, watching for probes and not getting on any kills. You now are going to say that ongrid boosters should be used, which is indeed a viable option, until you realize that, on the one hand, you still cannot get on kills, because your utility slots and weapon slots are full with required boosters for the fleet, or, in the other hand, you get killed early in fights and thus doom your fleet.

When it comes to intel of scouts for a fleet I can only say that other humans are stupid, they have high latency when you need accurate information quickly and the accuracy is lackluster as well. This means in turn that relying on other humans for work that, to a certain degree, can be done more efficiently and accurately by yourself, puts your fleet in danger and your operation at risk. There are of course limits to how much one person can do alone and after some threshold you must use other humans. Other humans also can be trained to be better than worse scouts and many entities also try to do that, but not everyone is capable of functioning efficiently under pressure (just think of the recent Aeon kill where the Aeon pilot said the enemies "left", but instead just warped off the grid or something) and if you have to rely on these people to give you accurate information on what's on the other side of the gate or in a system you want to bridge to, it can have catastrophic results.

Nah, they'd have a RageBot do it for them...