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Fosse Carmichael
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-03-05 01:18:14 UTC
At first I was trying to find a station that had both refining and factories to set up in since I am setting up my supply chain to become a manufacturer... Not much luck there.. so I am trying to find a Minmatar NPC corp that may cover at least both of those but at different stations?

Basically so I can level my standing with just 1 to lower my taxes.



Thanks for any help
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-03-05 01:35:30 UTC
Plenty of refining + factory stations around.

And in general the type of NPC corp can tell you what their stations offer.

Navy corps offer combat related things at station.
Research corps offer research slots.

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Fosse Carmichael
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-03-05 01:56:02 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Plenty of refining + factory stations around.

And in general the type of NPC corp can tell you what their stations offer.

Navy corps offer combat related things at station.
Research corps offer research slots.



Actually I think I may have finally realized what I am doing... when I am searching on the star map... Are reprocessing and refining the same? So I should search for a reprocessing plant not just a refinery (hardly any station has a refinery) tons have reprocessing
Qalix
Long Jump.
#4 - 2014-03-05 02:18:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Qalix
They are technically different and are separate classifications, however, they both do the same thing.

You would probably have more luck with dotlan. For example, http://evemaps.dotlan.net/npc/24th_Imperial_Crusade/stations. It is only really helpful, though, if you know what the station types indicate. And that is something you'd have to dig deep for and/or just learn from experience (station types and station models are associated). Or you can click through them and kind of train yourself.

But Dotlan can still help with it's station markers. There are 4 colors (refine/reprocess, research, manufacture, cloning) that indicate what a station has. For example, http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/The_Forge/Jita, you can that Jita has stations that provide 3 of the 4 possible functions (refine, manufacture, clone).

When I was a Red Frog director, our tech guy (Ryomanni the Infinitely Capable) grabbed a copy of the data dump and used DB software to run queries. If you had that sort of skill set, you could get any type of data you wanted with the right query (e.g., Brutor Tribe stations in a .5 system within 4 jumps of a regional gate that have refining and cloning but not manufacturing and that use the Minmatar Trading Station model).

Sorry there isn't a better solution!
Fosse Carmichael
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-03-05 02:27:02 UTC
Qalix wrote:
They are technically different and are separate classifications, however, they both do the same thing.

You would probably have more luck with dotlan. For example, http://evemaps.dotlan.net/npc/24th_Imperial_Crusade/stations. It is only really helpful, though, if you know what the station types indicate. And that is something you'd have to dig deep for and/or just learn from experience (station types and station models are associated). Or you can click through them and kind of train yourself.

But Dotlan can still help with it's station markers. There are 4 colors (refine/reprocess, research, manufacture, cloning) that indicate what a station has. For example, http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/The_Forge/Jita, you can that Jita has stations that provide 3 of the 4 possible functions (refine, manufacture, clone).

When I was a Red Frog director, our tech guy (Ryomanni the Infinitely Capable) grabbed a copy of the data dump and used DB software to run queries. If you had that sort of skill set, you could get any type of data you wanted with the right query (e.g., Brutor Tribe stations in a .5 system within 4 jumps of a regional gate that have refining and cloning but not manufacturing and that use the Minmatar Trading Station model).

Sorry there isn't a better solution!



Ok, so a reprocessing plant will refine my ore just fine. So when I train up refining 5 and refine efficiency 4-5 (I believe 4 and then level 1 of an ore gets me to 100%) will those improvements in skill level for refining ore help me if it is technically a reprocessing plant or will I get more waste? There are certainly tons of stations with reprocessing and a factory that I am finding
Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-03-05 03:13:37 UTC
Are there even stations without refining left in high-sec?

And yes, you will get 0% waste, even if it's called reprocessing. Just make sure that the station has a 50% base yield. (The vast majority has, but a few stations still have a 30% base yield.) Not sure if you can see the base yield in game without flying to the station, but dotlan will tell you.
Qalix
Long Jump.
#7 - 2014-03-05 04:29:21 UTC
Correct. It does not matter if it's called refining or reprocessing and that goes for both the ore refining skills and the scrap metal processing skill.

Refining/reprocessing is the single most common station service. If you find a manufacturing station it will almost always have refining/reprocessing. So you might use that to focus your search. Don't forget to check actual occupancy of the manufacturing slots. It's one thing for a station to have the service, another for there to be open slots to use.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-03-05 04:58:26 UTC
Thomas Builder wrote:
Are there even stations without refining left in high-sec?

And yes, you will get 0% waste, even if it's called reprocessing. Just make sure that the station has a 50% base yield. (The vast majority has, but a few stations still have a 30% base yield.) Not sure if you can see the base yield in game without flying to the station, but dotlan will tell you.


This.

Having refining 5 + refinery efficieny 4 + Ore processing 1 gives you NO waste.

That doesnt mean 100% refining. For that you also need 6.67 standings to the corp / faction owning the station.

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Fosse Carmichael
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2014-03-05 05:00:36 UTC
haha ok, thanks guys... as I suspected.. I was wasting time looking for refining only at first, and was going crazy trying to find a Corp to run with.. now there are plenty around my zone in Rens as mentioned with reprocessing and factories.
Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
#10 - 2014-03-05 20:40:20 UTC
Thomas Builder wrote:
Are there even stations without refining left in high-sec?

And yes, you will get 0% waste, even if it's called reprocessing. Just make sure that the station has a 50% base yield. (The vast majority has, but a few stations still have a 30% base yield.) Not sure if you can see the base yield in game without flying to the station, but dotlan will tell you.


AFAIK many Amarr corp stations are 30% base.

OP, you also might want to train up some levels of Scrapmetal Processing for salvaging junk loot drops.
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#11 - 2014-03-05 21:43:10 UTC
If I recall correctly, almost all stations with R&D agents have below 50% refineries so you'll lose out. Also I think many manufacturing stations also have lower than 50% refines.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#12 - 2014-03-06 02:40:38 UTC
Fosse Carmichael wrote:
At first I was trying to find a station that had both refining and factories to set up in since I am setting up my supply chain to become a manufacturer... Not much luck there.. so I am trying to find a Minmatar NPC corp that may cover at least both of those but at different stations?

Basically so I can level my standing with just 1 to lower my taxes.

Thanks for any help

http://eve-online.itemdrop.net/eve_db/universe/station_search/
Qalix
Long Jump.
#13 - 2014-03-06 05:58:45 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Fosse Carmichael wrote:
At first I was trying to find a station that had both refining and factories to set up in since I am setting up my supply chain to become a manufacturer... Not much luck there.. so I am trying to find a Minmatar NPC corp that may cover at least both of those but at different stations?

Basically so I can level my standing with just 1 to lower my taxes.

Thanks for any help

http://eve-online.itemdrop.net/eve_db/universe/station_search/

Wow that is an old link. I forgot all about that. One can only wonder what the Paint Shop option represents.
Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-03-06 06:12:41 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
http://eve-online.itemdrop.net/eve_db/universe/station_search/
Yep, found that too.

Seems to still be accurate. And according to it, 90% of high-sec stations have 50% refining efficiency. Oddly, in the 10% that have a lower efficiency, there's a lot of stations owned by NPC corps with "Mining" in the name. Also a lot of Ammatar.