Wormholes

i like the idea of the mobile depot but then i have the problem of moving the loot....

Don't fit the co-processor for a probe launcher just leave the probe launcher offline. In the event you actually need it offline something else and online it. Not to mention use a Core Probe launcher instead of an expanded. You only need an expanded launcher to use combat probes.

The cloak is not useful for prevention. You can't cloak when targeted by sleepers or warping. People are going to jump you while you run sites or warp away from a wormhole at which points the cloak is less useful. In wspace pvp is often done by very patient people they will happily drop in a cloaked scout and wait for you to go back to running sites.


PS- If you are dying to L4's you aren't going to like wormhole sites. In addition while the isk per hour is good running C1 sites the issue is that a given C1's sites are unreliable. You can run a C1 in an hour or 2 and get good isk, but then those site are gone and won't be back for a week or more. So you have to wander around looking for more wormholes to C1, which in highsec are going to coming from inhabited C1-3s or at least C1-3 conected to other inhabited c4-6s.

I'd advise you look at faction warfare. Ships are cheap and rewards are high. Or start reading eve survival for all your L4s, and properly fitting your ships.

Obviously your skills are crappy if you are dying to Lvl 4 missions. Keep running level 3s until you can properly fit a BS, and have the ISK for it.

We killed a Brave Newbie few weeks ago running C1's using (why can't I links?!) a t2 fitted harbinger
He seemed to be doing alright, I had a chat with him and he stated he even felt overtanked.

[Harbinger, Jooberr's Harbinger]
Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
10MN Afterburner I

Heavy Pulse Laser II,Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II,Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II,Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II,Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II,Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II,Scorch M

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

+drones

Wormhole PI may be the best PI, but I think the income from it is sometimes a bit exaggerated. A lot of the best profit from it comes with max PI skills and the commitment to babysit your colonies constantly for maximum yield.

This basically means you need a POS. You need to be parked in the wormhole somewhat permanently and able to access the planets.

The alternative would be living out of an Orca (you keep ships and stuff you need in the Orca) and moving from wormhole to wormhole as you please. But Orcas aren't cheap either.

I'd say forget about PI unless you're planning to actually move into a wormhole system and stay there. Without a POS or at least a nomadic Orca setup, you aren't going to do that.

Which leaves you with either ratting or gas mining in wormholes. For those activities, you're fine with doing whatever wormhole you happen to discover rather than trying to move into one permanently. A Venture with a warp core stab and T2 Gas Harvesters will do the trick fine for sucking up gas. And a T2 Cruiser or Battlecruiser will be fine for ratting. Use a cheap destroyer for salvage duty. And don't fly anything in there that it would financially kill you if it got ganked.

People who say mission-running is more profitable are probably right. But it's your game and your fun. If doing all this in wormhole space sounds more fun, I see no reason why you shouldn't do it.

not forgetting that now we have salvage drones, and the harbinger has enough space for 2 flight of light drones + 1 flight of salvage drones.....add a mobile depot and a mobile tractor and it should be enough (not forgetting to have a hull repper in case of structural damage)....

It maybe boring but PI can make you 500m+ per toon per month in a wormhole
C1s are good for newer players to try it out but the best holes are C3s or C4s only 1 static and if you don't warp to it it doesn't open I believe, you need a pos and some guns and patience for the downtime when no sites etc

Honestly, as long as you can afford to lose the battle cruiser, take a BC, a mobile depot, mobile tractor unit, and enough salvagers to refit and salvage with your one battle cruiser.

Is it the optimal way to do things? No. Will you learn a bit and develop techniques to navigate and run sites a little better? Absolutely. You'll probably have fun, and eventually (or maybe soon) you'll lose your ship, but the only way you're going to get into this is if you just go ahead and do it.

Stop dithering, you can get started with less than 100mil all in.

I can only agree with what others have written: Find a WH corp to your taste and join them.
Not only will you and your investments be safer, but you will also have company and people who can teach you how to make the best of WH life.
Also, running sites alone is fine for one or two sites, but in the long run it gets old very fast.

That said, your harbi looks decently fit for C1, but if you want a lower investment, ishkurs and vengeances are both solid choices for C1s as well. Other AFs will work too, but those are my favourites.
As a bonus, they're cheaper, requires less SP to work well and have an easier time escaping when people uncloak.

Welcome to WH space :)

was thinking about it but im locked from T2 for now, once i've gathered skills to use T2 weaponry maybe.....