Warfare & Tactics

The one with the highest tier that you can do missions in a Stealthbomber. When the tier drops roll another alt for the other side and then run missions for them. Rinse and Repeat and farm your heart out.

Then Gully's answer has you covered.

A decent solution would be changing back to the old system of having a bunch of rats spawn in the plex. I think it was set up that way specifically to combat the farming issue, but the AI and lackluster power of the NPCs forbade that from happening. A compromise where you have just a few less rats than before but make them fairly strong would be a good route to go; forcing group gameplay in that situation would be ideal since the complexes would be able to hold themselves against most people excepting assault frigates or cruisers that actually take the time to burn down all the rats, and even then they'd be putting themselves in a vulnerable state if an enemy decides to hop in.

It would help even out the system control spread in the warzone, and if you combine it with giving system capping itself a lot more in the way of point value vs the upgrade system, and change missions so they help cap the contested level of the system, you have a good setup that discourages farming and botting, promotes group gameplay and incentivizes territory gains, which is what the damn war should be about in the first place in regards to the relationship between game objectives and rewards. The current issue is a problem of the devs own making.

we complain about broken plexing mechanics, which only work in 1% of the space. It doesn't matter if thats what you call "endgame" is approaching or the warzone is in balanced state - the mechanics are broken all the time. The tier is meaningless if its based on mechanics which only work on 1% of the space.

ok. make it 5. You can get fights in 5 systems out of all 70+ systems in the warzone. tier doesn't matter. All remaining systems are ruled by farmers, providing 0 content to the MMO due to broken plexing mechanics.

the pattern in this thread is the following:
1) people say plexing is broken
2) someone replies come to the 5 systems

1 has NOTHING to do with 2

right. plexing never functioned since CCP didn't fix the root cause of the problem, they patched the symptoms.

CCP saw that vigils are kiting NPCs while running down timers, CCP changed it so you have to kill the NPCs.
CCP saw that people now fit a gun on the T1 frig and still run down the timer 70km away from the warpin, ccp moved the warpin cloaser to the beacon.
now what? forbid stabbs and cloaks? It would still not fix the root cause, since nothing has been fixed in the first place.

Running would remain more efficient than defending your progress and staying in the plex. The fix are timer resets. CCP could literally revert all FW mechanics back to pre inferno and implement timer resets on top of it and plexing would be largely fixed.
And people saying, please come to the 5 systems would still be right (but off topic).

Honestly whatever system is implemented... I'll adjust.

However, can't you already hear the whines of the unpaid defensive plexers in the distance?

I have noticed many people think changing NPCs or adding more of them is a 'fix'

The one thing we don't want is harder or more NPCs used to stop the farmers.
That was the biggest factor that discouraged pvp under the old system.

A WT would appear on short and you had just leave as tanking the WT and a heap of NPCs was just not possible.
More non player content is never the answer or a 'fix'.

I like the fights the current system brings.


The only issues are non covert cloaks and warp stabs. They are only used by people who do not want to properly participate in the war.



Covert Cloaks are fine - People who fly ships that use them are there to pvp from my experience.

may i post something here, have you talked about changin the mechanics completelly?, wouldnt the orbit a button thing be the fundamental problem or something?, like for example, make FW plexes combat related, instead of running around a button you have to destroy an structure or something i guess there are plexes like this already, and make more sense than the plexes you're speaking of......the amount of LP would be fixed and would obligue the player to kill all the NPCs along with the structure, each structure destroyed sums to the conquest....

I don't know much about the mission side of things but I was thinking about a way of improving the Plexing system and I had a thought, could beacons be given EHP, be destructable, not much EHP either say 10-15K for a Novice/Small, 30K for a Medium and 60-70K for a Large.

This would mean that anybody could come into your plex and remove it, preventing you from acquiring the LP if you chose not to fight to defend it.

( EHP numbers simply to illustrate an example, would obviously be subject to balance)