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Announcement: Sacrifice of 1,000,000 Slaves to God

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Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#61 - 2014-03-04 14:01:17 UTC
Koronakesh wore it better.
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Anslo
Scope Works
#62 - 2014-03-04 14:03:24 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
So a few of the guys learned about this topic and requested a bit of leave from fleet activity to find Nappy here and educate him, in the most professional way possible, about why his dumb Snip* Please refrain from using profanity. ISD Ezwal.[/i] cirus of an action was wrong.

They're leave was approved.

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Jurou Yuan
Wolfraam 74
#63 - 2014-03-04 14:14:11 UTC
Are people outraged at the sheer number of lives, or the fact it was done to innocents?

Because I am fairly sure that 90% of people here have engaged none capsuleer vessels filled to the brim with mortals and given no second thought about it. And I am also betting their body count is just as high.

As much as I believe people consider this a attrocity, I also believe their public damning of this guy is nothing more than a opportunity for people to make sure they let everyone know how progressive they are, despite probably being as guilty.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#64 - 2014-03-04 14:17:46 UTC
Jurou Yuan wrote:
Are people outraged at the sheer number of lives, or the fact it was done to innocents?


Innocents? No. They are non-Chosen whose ancestors rebelled against God and committed sin and heresy, and the wrath of God abides upon them.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#65 - 2014-03-04 14:19:36 UTC
Desiderya wrote:
So how did losing to subhumans feel like, then?
Must surely give rise to a massive inferiority complex.


They had help. A lot of it.

God has given them leave to make rebellion for a time, but their ultimate destruction shall only glorify God all the more for it.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#66 - 2014-03-04 14:33:20 UTC
Kyllsa Siikanen wrote:

Come, come, Mr. Blake.

You act as though what he has done is somehow worse than what you and yours do literally every day!

Was it the loss of life which bothers you, or the destruction of resources?

Prove to us you're not a hypocrite. Prove these "anticruelty" measures which supposedly exist within the Empire actually DO matter, and can be enforced. Prove that you, and your organization, will draw a line in the sand, and that you will then hold that line.

Do something about it.


Spare the other Amarrian Loyalists your criticism; they have no power to "do something"; I have no regular interaction with them with which they can punish me by withdrawing; they cannot influence Khanid or CONCORD laws regarding the sale of slaves to Khanid citizens or Empyreans, nor the laws regarding treatment of slaves thus sold; should they decide to attack my vessels, they would suffer enormous losses in standings to the 24th Imperial Crusade as I am a direct member of that corporation — a single podding would take the perpetrator's standing from +10 to -5. Although I think I live on the same station as PIE, they cannot so much as walk from their captain's quarters to mine due to the air contamination that affects all of us.

Should you (wrongly) find my actions reprehensible, spare the other Amarr the condemnation that belongs only to me.
Karynn Denton
Lekhantsi Salvage Depot
#67 - 2014-03-04 14:42:10 UTC
Jurou Yuan wrote:
As much as I believe people consider this a attrocity, I also believe their public damning of this guy is nothing more than a opportunity for people to make sure they let everyone know how progressive they are, despite probably being as guilty.


Exactly, Pilot Yuan.
I guess it must be easier to type hypocritical outrage than to take action against him.

I wonder how many of his vocal detractors appear with kills against him on the public record?

Karynn Denton

Caravan Master
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#68 - 2014-03-04 15:14:05 UTC
Nauplius wrote:

Aren't you supposed to be nice to slaves?
No, that is a misconception owning to excessive liberalism among IGS Amarrians. Slaves are filthy, subhuman pieces of meat to whom little is required except keeping them on the path of salvation. These slaves have been rescued from the ever-increasing liberalism and decadence of our age; they will never fear being taken by a Liberal Holder (or worse, the Disciples of Ston) who might turn them from God unto the path of Damnation.

Aren't you supposed to teach them to accept the God instead of sending them all the way?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

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Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#69 - 2014-03-04 15:33:33 UTC
Jurou Yuan wrote:
Because I am fairly sure that 90% of people here have engaged non-capsuleer vessels filled to the brim with mortals and given no second thought about it. And I am also betting their body count is just as high.


Indeed. Looking at the daily chart of ships destroyed, it quickly becomes apparent that the outrage presented here is little more than facetious wailing (and, incidentally, that Nation is hardly the greatest threat faced by Mankind - not to be unduly dismissive of that other thread of mercifully more limited facetious wailing).
Gaven Lok'ri
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#70 - 2014-03-04 15:53:53 UTC
Welcome, Nauplius, to the list of people PIE is allowed to shoot.

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Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#71 - 2014-03-04 15:54:04 UTC
I duly note that Pilot Noh has no understanding of the distinction between combat and murder.

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Author of The Deathworlders
Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#72 - 2014-03-04 16:36:06 UTC
I duly note that Pilot Stitcher has no understanding of the word "pretense."
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#73 - 2014-03-04 16:58:52 UTC
I'll be honest: I didn't bother reviewing the entirety of this discussion. Doing so gives this mad dog more attention than he deserves.

And why? To my admittedly foreign understanding, he fails in his duty as a master; it is his duty to lift up this 'subhuman meat' to humanity and godliness through labor and moral rectitude. Execution out-of-hand to castigate others is not in keeping with that tradition. He does it to stain himself red, to proclaim himself right and powerful and worthy of note.

Ladies and gentlemen, even as you decry his actions and demean them as worthless, you are doing two things: you demean the million dead, and you give him the very attention and validation his (very nearly terrorist) activity deserves.

One does one thing to mad dogs: one shoots them, and one disposes of the corpse.

No more, no less.

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TomHorn
Horn Brothers Holdings Inc.
#74 - 2014-03-04 17:00:19 UTC
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I would gladly consider him a valid target in the warzone.


Pieter we are both military men, Civire, Caldari loyalists. Our politics are slightly different. Im a Caldari nationalist, i supported Heths reforms. Heth lost his fight to keep power and make his reforms. Ive joined the militia, ive earned the rank of Brigader General, im still loyal to the State. Lets not let things escalate to this, where we consider each other a valid target. We may not agree on everything but who does.

Awoxers in the militia Pieter are the worst kind of capsuleer you can come accross. I want to be clear with you on this Pieter is that what you are suggesting. If you came across me in the war zone in the Caldari militia you would consider awoxing me.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#75 - 2014-03-04 17:02:48 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
I'll be honest: I didn't bother reviewing the entirety of this discussion. Doing so gives this mad dog more attention than he deserves.

And why? To my admittedly foreign understanding, he fails in his duty as a master; it is his duty to lift up this 'subhuman meat' to humanity and godliness through labor and moral rectitude. Execution out-of-hand to castigate others is not in keeping with that tradition. He does it to stain himself red, to proclaim himself right and powerful and worthy of note.

Ladies and gentlemen, even as you decry his actions and demean them as worthless, you are doing two things: you demean the million dead, and you give him the very attention and validation his (very nearly terrorist) activity deserves.

One does one thing to mad dogs: one shoots them, and one disposes of the corpse.

No more, no less.


Would that rogue capsuleers were so easily dealt with. Well said, nevertheless.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#76 - 2014-03-04 17:54:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
*Post edited as preceeding posts were removed for some reason*
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#77 - 2014-03-04 18:27:31 UTC
Kyllsa Siikanen wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
Nauplius: you're a disgrace.

If justice doesn't find you in this life, rest assured that it will find you in the next.


Come, come, Mr. Blake.

You act as though what he has done is somehow worse than what you and yours do literally every day!

Was it the loss of life which bothers you, or the destruction of resources?

Prove to us you're not a hypocrite. Prove these "anticruelty" measures which supposedly exist within the Empire actually DO matter, and can be enforced. Prove that you, and your organization, will draw a line in the sand, and that you will then hold that line.

Do something about it.


There's a difference between locking up petty criminals and executing them.

There's a difference between respecting one's property and willfully destroying it.

There's a difference between nurturing civilisation and killing it.

But you already knew that.



Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#78 - 2014-03-04 18:57:49 UTC
There is a whole lot of anger here.

It's stupid.

She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.

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Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#79 - 2014-03-04 18:58:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyris Nairn
Stitcher wrote:
I duly note that Pilot Noh has no understanding of the distinction between combat and murder.

Disregarding the lives of the people that capsuleers kill in "combat" is just a lazy way to insulate the conscience. When it is over, people bleed, die, and freeze in space just the same. Whether you call it combat or murder, at the end of the day there are aggrieved widows, crushed dreams, careers ruined, hearts broken, families without providers, and all of the other, negative repercussions.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

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Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#80 - 2014-03-04 18:59:20 UTC
Kalaratiri wrote:
There is a whole lot of anger here.

It's stupid.

And a whole lot of nothing will come of it.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

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