Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I know this must've been risen. But still: do something with self-destruct as a tool of not providing the enemy both loot and killmail.

I specificly bring your attention to the fact, that with supers unable to save themselve by logoff - they will SD. And few are the fleets, that can kill a supercapital in two minutes. Hard to imagine the amount or angry people after the first super-capital battle after the patch.

But supers are not my concern. Our corporation live in wormholes. The best pray here is a capital. But around 70% of capitals we ever caught - self-destructed, thus much ruinng the interest. You simply don't often have fleets big enough to kill a capital fast in wormholes.

Options are:
1. Rising SD-timer to 15 minutes for capitals, 30 for supers
2. Generating killmails with the owner of the ship giving "the last blow".

Discuss.

This is a game about killing ships, right? Not wathcing the best prey you came for self-destructing.

And the ship is dead whether you finish it or it self destructs, right?

Option 1 is interesting. I'm sure many capital ship pilots would object to this intense increase to the self destruct time.
Example- If I were knowing I was about to loose my capital ship, I would most certainly self destruct if only for the purpose of destroying as much of the ship as possible. (You should be able to scuttle your ship in 2 mins)

Having said that I think that if I were to self destruct my capital there should be a lossmail for it, because it's no longer a ship, but a wreck. Also the killboard's that these corps/alliances work so hard twords should show the losses of multiple capitals that decide to self destruct while in combat.

I think all ships that become destroyed should create lossmails, including pod's as they are soon to have implants on the mail.

The better solution is to remove killmails.

Friend, if you let a capital self-destruct on you, they were obviously running pimp fit and didn't want the world to know. Overheat your guns next time. (/Troll)

For real now, I understand your pain and I MIGHT support a slight increase in time for the self-destruct timer on capitals and supercapitals however, 15-30 minutes is far too long. More like 5 minutes, perhaps 10 for supercaps (though even that seems a little long).

Regarding the fluff of the matter and justifications; no ship captain would knowingly leave ready-to-go explosive charges all over his vessel as that would be a fire hazard and is the main reason self-destructs are not instantaneous in the first place. Most sci-fi universes involving spaceships that self-destruct typically describe a controlled overload of the ship's power systems to accomplish the actual self-destructing. Starfleet vessels from Star Trek have been described as combining a phased, simultaneous overload of the antimatter and fusion reactors onboard with a *few* ultra-stable-because-it's-the-future explosives planted at structurally strong points to assure sufficient destruction. Bringing it back to EVE now, presumably the systems onboard capitals would take longer to spool to an overload state than those of subcapitals.

Still, we must always be mindful of the killmail whore in all of us and not let it distract you from the feat you accomplished or at least, forced. Just because someone deprived you of a killmail doesn't mean they didn't lose the ship and everything that was fit to it. ISK loss is ISK loss, and the record of that is less important than the effect if you ask me.

Appealing for self-destructed ships to drop loot and leave a wreck same as any other would be a far cry better than a) forcing them to be killed in the normal fashion or b) giving out what amounts to kill-porn in which there was never any loot to be had. I can't find the quote at the moment but I do recall CCP declaring at one point that self-destructing is meant to be a legitimate tactic to prevent loss of modules to the enemy, however awesome those mods may be. Increasing the self-destruct time SLIGHTLY for capital ships would make this a bit more of a gamble as failing to survive until the suicidal kaboom would net the unfortunate pilot of that ship a much huger e-peen slap to the face than the publishing of an "administrative" killmail.

Yea gotta watch that K/D ratio, heaven knows what people will think.

thx. Checked " Community proposed ideas" - seems there was nothing about SD there.

Ahh, that's why. The thread you're looking for is "Commonly proposed ideas".

Quote for great justice.

Leave my ships alone.


Burn this topic with fire!