EVE General Discussion

They don't catch up faster. Partly because “catching up” doesn't apply to the EVE skill system and partly because the older players train at the same increased speed. If anything, the older players train faster since they can optimise their attributes to a far higher degree and get more out of that increase.

Oh and…They did. It has since been removed, having been replaced of sorts with age-imited implants (which, btw, benefit older players more).

What I would like is that learning a high rank (12-16) skills would have more 'oompfh' when you finally get that racial carrier lvl V after 38days then just adding a few percent of stats and a filled up certificate but then again it risks that we'd be back in 'skill x at least lvl V or bust' situation.

Why not, because CCP are clueless about new players. Until you get to 2-3 mil SP the the training rate should be accelerated to 500-1000% then they can reduces it gradually to current levels when you get to 5-6 mil SP. The training is filled with all kind of bottlenecks that keeps basically at the same level for weeks or even months.

Some player asked on the forum how to set a training plan because he was away for a month. Somebody answered him to put in queue a skill that takes a month to train. A month!!!!!

Then again fixing this horrid training mechanic would impact their pay2win model were new characters are trained and sold more or less for real money.

Shorter train time would mean more players and they don't really want more players.

You need to brush up on your history, what you're suggesting would actually be a step backwards.

Newbies used to get a 100% boost to their skill training speed until they hit 1.6 million SP. It was removed when CCP dumped learning skills, and revamped the initial character stats so that your character attributes are a fair bit better than they were previously. Overall your character trains faster now than it has done at any time in the past.

And? It's been that way since day one.

Pay2win? You're having a laugh, new characters ain't worth diddly in the character bazaar and they definitely aren't exchanged for real money, character sales are done with ingame currency, unless of course it's for sale on eBay which results in one thing, the ban hammer.

Of course they want new players, you're just spouting rubbish.

That's not going to happen, the best any rival will come up with is a wishy washy facsimile of Eve, and the majority of people play Eve precisely because it is a brutal game, wishy washy just isn't going to cut it for a lot of us.

Already happening. Star Citizen will be in alpha later this year and released in 2015. It is fully player funded btw.

If you've been playing this game for 10 years and think that having more SP is actually relevant once appropriate support skills have been trained up, then you are wrong. The reality is that there is a finite amount of skillpoints that are needed to be able to fly a given ship "perfectly."

The only difference once you achieve that threshhold is breadth of ship choices. SP is irrelevant.

I have no idea if this was even touched on as I didn't bother to read every single response in the thread. But I think that because Eve has such a high learning curve compared to other games the pacing of skill training as it stands is a huge benefit to new players.
For some people first starting Eve the game can be very overwhelming. There is a lot to see, do and learn. The way the skills train allows for a players game knowledge to keep pace with their skill training. A player can get into a standard t1 battleship in about 3-4 days. I wouldn't advise it as it would be virtually impossible to fit it well enough to do much with it... but it is doable. Here is the problem: a new player doesn't have the support skills... but even MORE paramount imo is the fact that they don't have the knowledge necessary (even WITH the skills) to make it an effective platform. That's what training time in Eve can really do for a new player. It lets them fly the smaller ships and gives them the experience they need to make each platform they train into all the more effective.
I am at 40+m sp right now and even though I have the experience necessary to fly most standard battleships... when I get my marauder I am still going to take my time with it to get used to how it flies, to see how fast it kills, to get an overall feel for how the performance of the ship will enhance my gameplay. But it takes... TIME. And as you are training your skills you have just that... time.
Just my thoughts. Good luck in game.

That's the problem here, for new charactes looking at the training queue is like watching grass grow. Probably none of the CCP devs ever looked at this from the perspective of a new players since the game launched.

Then some 5 year old players completely unable to put them self in the shoes of the new players come here with ideas like "oh, no, training is too fast"

That's the problem right there: they shouldn't be looking at the training queue; they should be playing and learning the game.

Giving a 1 time bonus as a gift is not the same as a consistent permanent change.