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Pirate Faction Battlecruisers and Destroyers.
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The Sinister
Interbellum
#1 - 2014-03-03 16:19:00 UTC
I believe its time to introduce the Pirate variants of Destroyers and Battlecruisers into Eve.

After all we have been getting used to those 2 ship classes for some time now.
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-03-03 16:35:03 UTC
Navy faction destroyers would be nice too
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#3 - 2014-03-03 16:43:50 UTC
I agree wholeheartedly! However, let's give some more time for the Navy Battlecruisers to get any fine-tuning and especially for the rest of the ship rebalancing to occur. It would be silly to try and introduce powerful new Pirate ships (because come on, they're pirate and pirate = powerful) before all the other ships are done.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#4 - 2014-03-03 16:53:59 UTC
Whenever i shoot at pirate battlecrusiers they die in 1-2 shots.

I'm not sure if I would want one.

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#5 - 2014-03-03 17:05:24 UTC
Ho ho ho, Batelle. Don't forget that those battlecruisers lack the savagery, power and durability that only a capsuleer can provide.

Imagine, if you will, an Angel battlecruiser. Spiraling in under AB power and then using its superior agility to maintain a tight radius around the enemy, autocannons blazing as the target is perforated into tiny space-bits.

It would be glorious.
Naomi Anthar
#6 - 2014-03-03 17:25:43 UTC
I completly support this idea. I love those cross faction ships very much. And it really makes me sad that class with least ships aka destroyers is missing navy versions. And for all that is sacred. If we get navy amarr dessie - it cannot be drone or missles. No fking way. We already have Heretic , dragoon. Stupid amount of blaster dessies, missile dessie (4 compared to one laser), 2 drone dessies and 2 projectile.

Navy Coercer with 3 mids would be perfect ;).

And i'm really curious how would sansha/br dessies look like. Because gursitas ... yeah cormorant with drones. Because Angel we got already some model ingame for dessie that npc use. And serpentis probably catalyst with 90% web and 200% damage bonus ... :D oh and of course 3 mids to make sure it gets web there ;).
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-03-03 18:47:10 UTC
There's already an interdictor version of catalyst for gallente, I'd prefer a tech II or Navy faction algos :)
Iudicium Vastus
Doomheim
#8 - 2014-03-03 19:06:09 UTC
Pirate BC may be realistic, we do have Navy BC's already. Maybe they're just waiting to find their balance as well as the pirate balances coming up before fitting a pirate BC somewhere in there.

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Lucine Delacourt
The Covenant of Blood
#9 - 2014-03-03 19:19:59 UTC
I am 100% behind adding more Destros and to a lesser extent more BC's but finding a niche for pirate lines would be hard. Also, as Ludicium pointed out they haven't managed to balance the existing BC's and pirate lines yet,
Ines Tegator
Serious Business Inc. Ltd. LLC. etc.
#10 - 2014-03-03 21:27:25 UTC
Not opposed, but wait until Tiericide is done. The balance landscape is still changing rapidly and new general-purpose ships would only complicate things.

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#11 - 2014-03-03 21:35:33 UTC
The Sinister wrote:
I believe its time to introduce the Pirate variants of Destroyers and Battlecruisers into Eve.
After all we have been getting used to those 2 ship classes for some time now.

Yes, it would be nice to have a series of battlecruisers that didn't suck for a change.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Ersahi Kir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-03-03 21:55:23 UTC
I just want navy destroyers because all the new destroyers are missing a high slot hardpoint. That sets off my OCD.
Amarisen Gream
The.Kin.of.Jupiter
#13 - 2014-03-03 22:16:57 UTC
I made a post somewhere (at least had the thought), that each ship hull should have a Meta 1 (Tech 1) Meta 2 (Low End pirate) Meta 3 (Navy) Meta 4 (High End Pirate) Meta 5 (Tech 2)

This would mean more ships and more balancing then ever before, but it would do nice.
PG/CPU could be increased say 5% per meta group.
Meta 2 + 5%
Meta 3 +10%
Meta 4 + 15%

And by low end pirates, I mean the basic ones. While hi-end are like the Shadow Serpentis etc.

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Claud Tiberius
#14 - 2014-03-03 22:29:57 UTC
A navy Corax plz Shocked

Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.
The Sinister
Interbellum
#15 - 2014-03-03 22:55:09 UTC
Well at least Navy Destroyers can be added in summer expansion.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#16 - 2014-03-04 01:02:54 UTC
Ines Tegator wrote:
Not opposed, but wait until Tiericide is done. The balance landscape is still changing rapidly and new general-purpose ships would only complicate things.



this is the best course of action I think.


When ccp dropped the pirate frigs back in the day they were dropped when many frigs were at varying levels of being broken. All it did, imo, was create even more balance headaches in time.

They had to nerf the pirates eventually (looking at dramiel hard here lol). Then they finally fixed t1 and t2 pretty good as the pirates showed clearly stuff was jacked up. Now some pirates need their rebalance now from mild to wild.

A few shiny toys created a whole bunch of rebalancing basically. I am of the belief fun rides like dramiel could have kept thier "op" factor as is if AF and inty would have been fixed first at any rate. this would have saved the remaining rerebalance ccp still has to do.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2014-03-04 01:53:27 UTC
T2 covops destroyers perchance ?
Silivar Karkun
Doomheim
#18 - 2014-03-05 15:13:49 UTC
Stephanie Rosefire
Atlas Protectorate and Empire Defense Agency
#19 - 2014-03-05 16:21:49 UTC
as much as i agree with adding the pirate faction ships and navy destroyers, lets look at a couple things first.

1) designing and balancing ships is incredibly tough, and continues to be incredibly tough the more ships CCP adds. the new SOE ships were generally a great success, save one. the nestor, wasnt balanced 100%, and people are making sure that CCP knows this. also, these 3 new ships are the only ships that will come out for a while, its basically to sate our hunger for new ships and content.

2) there is a monstrous hole in the pirate faction realm. there are no dedicated missile boats in the pirate faction ships. these ships will probably be Mordu Legion ships, if added. i think that this hole needs to be addressed first. once all the frig, cruiser and BS pirate faction ships have been filled in, then i think we should push for navy/pirate faction destroyers and pirate faction BCs
Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
#20 - 2014-03-05 16:44:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Bertrand Butler
Give us

a Caldari Navy Corax
an Imperial Navy Dragoon
a Federation Navy Algos
and a Republic Fleet Talwar

We will put them to good use. I promise.


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2) there is a monstrous hole in the pirate faction realm. there are no dedicated missile boats in the pirate faction ships. these ships will probably be Mordu Legion ships, if added. i think that this hole needs to be addressed first. once all the frig, cruiser and BS pirate faction ships have been filled in, then i think we should push for navy/pirate faction destroyers and pirate faction BCs


It has been confirmed that a Caldari/Minnie pirate class will be deployed, soon™.
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