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Can someone contact me regarding Renting, im looking for a system to rent.

Could I get an update on what systems are available please in a mail.

The list of what's available is in the original post

Depends on what tax rate your ratters are willing to accept, and how much they rat. The two things are also not entirely unrelated (ie they'll rat more if the tax is less).

If you have 50 people that rat 2b each at 10% a month, you'll show a handy profit. IMO most corps holding the big rent systems are larger than 50 characters - because of alts, because 1b a month is probably more comfortable average for those that do rat and because when you move to null, not everybody moves (some of them will still pay taxes on highsec mission bounties or whatever so its not always a total loss if they don't live there).

note that due to the way ded signatures work, a solo player can work a 1b or 1.5b rental system and easily pay rent and come up with a few billion in profit a month. 2 or 3 people can also work a similar system if they are agreeing to share the rent burden.

That doesn't however scale to the larger systems at all. the ded plex income doesn't increase greatly and gets diffused amongst your players. The cheaper systems have similar problems, but they are more easily fixed by the CEO just ratting to make ends meet. You might be able to avoid that with 15 active players, but then you'll probably have to manage diplomatic incidents with them roaming.

PI can pay the entire rent in some systems for someone with some dedication to it, and currently no rental cost algorithms value the PI.

I'm back from vacation

Caveman asked me to post about PI stuff.

I make about 12m a day off a 4 planet system that is no more effort to run than a moon, and since I have an R16 moon to compare, it earns roughly the same daily. All I am doing is extract dual resources -> p2 -> export to factory planet -> p3 -> export and haul to alliance jumpfreighter terminal where the alliance JF service moves the items to Jita for me to sell. P3 is the minimum you'd export (close to best isk/volume which is what affects your JF costs), and by dual resourcing and compressing to P2 straight away my buffers run for weeks before running out of space, so hauling is not a regular requirement (I'm all about the low effort, and not needing 2 characters out here).

note if you own your own COs, there is no export tax, so some stuff that might not work well in highsec will work here. (ie I have the very common dual resource -> p2 for compression and tax reduction type setup), but there is no reason in null you can't export P1s, and only extract 1 resource which leaves you all the grid for extraction and no long links.

Doing it my way would probably max out at 1.3b a month with all 3 characters dedicated to the task, but I'd expect that someone who likes PI could actually make it do better by only extracting 1 resource per planet (as without any taxes on my exports, there is no strong reason why I couldn't export P1s if required).

Also the rules don't prevent you using other pblrd systems for PI, which means you can get a complete PI system running whether or not the system you rent has all the planet types you need. (The big advantage of renting a perfect system with the rarer planet types is that the COs will have other users who pay taxes to you, and you are pretty safe using the t1 dedicated hauler for intra system work, which is again convenient if you intend putting p1s into spaceship holds).

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