Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Mara Pahrdi, so you are suggesting that creating a dueling mechanic that allow for only 1v1's and thus gives valuable training and enjoyment to any pilots who wish to utilize it would somehow affect all of Eve and not only affect, but destroy it? I think quite the opposite; I think that having a medium for new pilots to learn the basics of 1v1 pvp and for all pilots to enjoy if they choose it would not harm the Eve universe, but would encourage newer pilots to stay in the game and pilots new to pvp to venture out into lowsec and null sec once they attain a grasp on the basics.

Someone mentioned earlier in the original thread I started in general discussion, that leaving the current iteration of dueling and creating a 2nd option for pure 1v1's and no cheap tricks with station docking or outside interference would result in pilots knowing that engaging the the first form of dueling knowing for certain that the other side plans on not fight fair, thus destroying the lure of classic Eve combat. This would also probably result in everyone choosing the new form of dueling and the current version would never get used. While I am unsure why we need an option for unfair combat in highsec when we can always just go to lowsec or null for that, I did think of a possible solution that would provide a sort of harmony for the two modes of dueling should a 2nd mode be introduced.

If a new pure 1v1 dueling system is added to the current one, then incentive to use the traditional mode of dueling could be provided through disallowing pilots in fleets to enter a pure 1v1 duel. This would stop pilots from using OGB's in a pure 1v1, thus making it an even more even playing field while providing another motive for traditional dueling besides playing station games or bringing in RR. Additional inventive to engage in the traditional form of dueling could be provided by instituting an exclusive betting system not available for the "safer" pure 1v1 mode. If a pilot invites you to a traditional duel, they can also enter an isk value they wish to bet on outcome of the duel. The other pilot would then have the option to hit "accept terms" and then both pilot's would receive a reduction from their wallets in the amount bet and both bets would be returned to the wallet of the pilot who destroys the ship of the other. If the other pilot does not wish to bet, he pay select "agree to duel without bet" and then the duel would immediately commence. If the other pilot wishes to bet a different amount, they may type in a counter offer in the dueling window. This window would be similar to the current trade window and would only go through once both pilots have entered the same value ranging from 0 to the wallet total of the poorest pilot. If the dueling timer runs out before one ship has been destroyed, then both bets are returned to each player's wallet.

If a 2nd pure 1v1 mode was added as well as these incentives, then I think there would be a harmony between both modes: the classic Eve benefit-to-risk ratio would be maintained. If you wish to bet on a pure 1v1 duel, you will have to do so manually and you will have to trust the other pilot to honor your betting arrangement and give you your isk if you win. If you want to be guaranteed that you will receive your bet should you win or if you wish to use OGB's/fleet bonuses, invite your target to a traditional duel, but at the risk of having your enemy use more unsavory tactics.

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That is extremely inconvenient and really isn't a realistic method. Please forget the word honor. Obviously honor cannot be forced on anyone, that is counteractive. What I am proposing is the addition of a system that could be a lot of fun and a valuable resource. Also, if the betting system I proposed were to be implemented, there would remain a large incentive to use the old dueling system as you could make isk from pvp. The solution, as I"ve come up with it thus far, would have a dueling system for people who just want good old 1v1's as well as dueling system for people who want a little more risk and potential rewards. I think both dueling options would be a lot of fun for players of all kinds!