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Chances of finding open moon in high-sec

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Stryker LaForge
Norfork and Way
#1 - 2014-03-01 14:57:25 UTC
I'm a fairly new player, in my 3rd month now. I'm not really interested in joining a player corp, but I'm thinking about starting a one-man corp so I can anchor a POS to do research and copy BP's. Before I waste a lot of time flying around looking for an empty moon in Gallente space, is there a chance of actually finding one empty, or are they all pretty much taken?
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-03-01 15:12:36 UTC
Chances are good, unless you're looking a couple jumps from Dodixie. Find a system a little off the beaten track and you should be fine

That said, before you decide to go that route make sure you can afford it and that the POS is not a drain on resources. You'll need faction standings of 5 or higher (unmodified faction standings, not corp). Fuel costs for a small POS are around 100 million a month, office rental will need to be paid, can be anything from a couple million upwards depending how busy the station is.

Unless you're very serious about manufacturing, can afford all of that and the blueprints to research and copy and have an alt or two to help use up all the POS lab slots, consider buying researched BPOs
Stryker LaForge
Norfork and Way
#3 - 2014-03-01 15:35:57 UTC
Ok, thanks I'll start looking around. I had planned on stocking up a month worth of fuel before I built it. I'm kind of looking for a goal in the game, and I figured making enough to keep a station running is a worthy goal. I have 100% refine up to Hemophite at 2 different corps and close at a third, so I've been making ISK buying ore and selling the refined minerals, as well as some mining and missioning. I would like to get into planetary interaction too, but I figured all the planets were already taken as well.
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-03-01 15:42:02 UTC
Planets aren't single user, so set up your PI anywhere you like.
Stryker LaForge
Norfork and Way
#5 - 2014-03-01 15:45:29 UTC
If there is more than one person on a planet do they compete for the resources?
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-03-01 16:41:05 UTC
Yes, kinda. If you and someone else have extractors in the same place, you'll drain the resource faster.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-03-01 17:46:44 UTC
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Yes, kinda. If you and someone else have extractors in the same place, you'll drain the resource faster.


Not to forget...if you draw item "x" out of PI, it means supply goes up and thus value of the item goes down.

Another way to look at PI is to build the PI components needed for the fuel blocks and then either buy or mine the ice part so you can cut down on the POS fueling bill

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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#8 - 2014-03-01 17:57:00 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Yes, kinda. If you and someone else have extractors in the same place, you'll drain the resource faster.


Not to forget...if you draw item "x" out of PI, it means supply goes up and thus value of the item goes down.

Another way to look at PI is to build the PI components needed for the fuel blocks and then either buy or mine the ice part so you can cut down on the POS fueling bill



Though remember to still bill /yourself/ for the pos fuel components. or you're throwing money 'away'

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-03-01 18:00:42 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Yes, kinda. If you and someone else have extractors in the same place, you'll drain the resource faster.


Not to forget...if you draw item "x" out of PI, it means supply goes up and thus value of the item goes down.

Another way to look at PI is to build the PI components needed for the fuel blocks and then either buy or mine the ice part so you can cut down on the POS fueling bill



Though remember to still bill /yourself/ for the pos fuel components. or you're throwing money 'away'


This...it AIN'T free.

Run the numbers first to see what is more profitable

A. Building your own fuel blocks by using your own PI and buying/mining Ice products.

B. Selling your own PI products and then selling fuel blocks.

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#10 - 2014-03-01 18:48:30 UTC
Another thing to consider OP is that your POS may become a target to people who want to turn a pretty profit. At some point you may want to befriend some players with more combat experience and cut a deal with them for protection.
Qalix
Long Jump.
#11 - 2014-03-02 08:00:59 UTC
Don't put up a POS unless you've planned a use for it. If you don't already know what you'll be producing, in what quantity, to sell at what price, do that first. Otherwise you're just burning fuel.
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#12 - 2014-03-02 08:58:31 UTC
If you want to put up a POS; go for it

When it annoys you or no longer interests you; take it down

If profit determines any of the above, do some calculations first.

Cameron Zero
Sebiestor Tribe
#13 - 2014-03-02 15:43:28 UTC
I was all set to put you in touch with some fine people in the RvB moon clearing service with which you could negotiate, but then I read you're in Gallente space. Good luck to you!

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People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#14 - 2014-03-02 16:20:48 UTC
If you can't find an open moon where you want it, you can always clear one for yourself. Half of the POSes in highsec are abandoned and owned by people who unsubbed years ago. A wardec costs 50 mil, and then you can shoot at these.

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Stryker LaForge
Norfork and Way
#15 - 2014-03-03 09:03:17 UTC
Thanks for all the input! I still have to improve my Gallente relations some before I can anchor, so I'm going to start setting up some PI logistics to provide the fuel. I'm still a little confused about fuel. Control tower info only lists fuel blocks as required, while I've also seen Coolant, Enriched Uranium, Mechanical Parts, Oxygen, and Robotics listed as POS fuels, as well as Ice products Heavy water, Liquid Ozone, and Oxygen Isotopes. Are these needed along with the fuel blocks, or are they the component that make up the fuel blocks? I can't find any info on where and how fuel block are manufactured. Are they made in stations, on a POS, or on a planet?
Lord Battlestar
CALIMA COLLABORATIVE
Atrox Urbanis Respublique Abundatia
#16 - 2014-03-03 09:16:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Battlestar
Stryker LaForge wrote:
Thanks for all the input! I still have to improve my Gallente relations some before I can anchor, so I'm going to start setting up some PI logistics to provide the fuel. I'm still a little confused about fuel. Control tower info only lists fuel blocks as required, while I've also seen Coolant, Enriched Uranium, Mechanical Parts, Oxygen, and Robotics listed as POS fuels, as well as Ice products Heavy water, Liquid Ozone, and Oxygen Isotopes. Are these needed along with the fuel blocks, or are they the component that make up the fuel blocks? I can't find any info on where and how fuel block are manufactured. Are they made in stations, on a POS, or on a planet?


They are made via blueprint, like pretty much every other player item in game, bar a select few. All of those things were once POS fuel items themselves, then CCP combined them into a parts list for fuel blocks themselves. You get all of the above, install a build job in a station or POS (with the right assemble arrays), and then when it is done out pop the useable blocks when the job is delivered. Just look up the specific fuel block blueprint (for the tower you plan on using), then plan your production according to what it needs. Only isotopes change between racial towers.

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Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#17 - 2014-03-03 10:21:28 UTC
Stryker LaForge wrote:
Thanks for all the input! I still have to improve my Gallente relations some before I can anchor, so I'm going to start setting up some PI logistics to provide the fuel. I'm still a little confused about fuel. Control tower info only lists fuel blocks as required, while I've also seen Coolant, Enriched Uranium, Mechanical Parts, Oxygen, and Robotics listed as POS fuels, as well as Ice products Heavy water, Liquid Ozone, and Oxygen Isotopes. Are these needed along with the fuel blocks, or are they the component that make up the fuel blocks? I can't find any info on where and how fuel block are manufactured. Are they made in stations, on a POS, or on a planet?


Once upon a time, you used to load all these materials into your POS as fuel, so some outdated materials may say you need to do this. These days, you need fuel blocks, which are manufactured out of these components. You can either buy a BPO and manufacture your own fuel, or just buy the blocks from the market. Manufacturing is just like any T1 commodity - do it at an NPC station.

You also want to load your POS with strontium clathrates. The purpose of these is to allow your POS, when successfully attacked, to go into a "reinforced mode" during which it becomes invulnerable for a period of time determined by the amount of stront loaded in the bay. This allows you some time to organize a final defense of the tower. Without stront, an attacker can just burn it to the ground all at once.

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Stryker LaForge
Norfork and Way
#18 - 2014-03-03 11:24:52 UTC
Ok found the Fuel Block BP. I had looked before but couldn't find it. Must have been looking in the wrong category or had solar system/station filter selected on market. Trained my scan skill so I can scan planets. I wish I had known more about PI from the beginning, since I want to be an industrialist mainly. Every planet I ever saw had a customs office, I thought this meant they were already claimed, so I never bothered to train the PI skills.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-03-03 12:27:13 UTC
About PI....run the numbers.

And check them at least twice.


99% of the custom offices are now player controlled so look at the taxes you will pay for using them.

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