EVE General Discussion

Sure they cold let 5k people into jita. And have 20% or worse tidi just like them fleet battles

What is worse....waiting 5 mins on gate..... Or being let in with 5k others and it takes you 38mins to warp your freighter to the station?

Anyone know if tidi effects market orders and clicks? That would be awful. Like shopping online in 1999 when you still had a 56k modem!

Its like the Minmatar militia, but more golden.




And better.

Because they're stupid.

BAHAHA genius.

Jita will always make headlines in GD until my idea is implemented... CCP should charge a PLEX for priority access to Jita. It's a win win for everyone. Well, except poor people, of course. Such is life.

Remote buying and courier contracts also do the trick. Just order online. Why go to an overcrowded supermarket when you can have someone drop it off? I don't use any of the recommended service providers, just brutal collateral and a decent payout. Maybe you guys are too greedy and cheap to throw ISK at a problem instead of your time and sanity by spamming the jump button.

Should have named yourself Reid instead of Rollins.

Come to Osmon; we have cookies.

Why do people not accept/understand the ingame contextual explanation given for Gate queues?

That the games internal entity that is the Jitan Authorities restrict transit to their system because they are at their maximum capacity to service Capsuleers?

Is that not the same as any other port IRL having a maximum capacity?
FULL means FULL.

If you where the Jitan Authorities, would you allow an infinite amount of heavily armed, potentially dangerous, extremely opposrtunistic and politically unaligned immortal Capsuleers into your system? Not only interms of your systems logistics capacity to cope, but also interms of maintaining system security? Hell no. Though player Sov systems may be unable to restrict Gate access by accessing the Gates controls itself, that is indirectly facilitated by player fleets meeting you at said gates, and restricting access militarily. This is a necessary distinction between the non-player NPC nature of Empire systems, as compared to player owned systems.

There seems to be an irrational, unrealistic and flawed assumption on the part of these players: that for some reason gates and stations should have an infinite capacity. Where did they get that idea into their heads? Who told them that? What part of the concept of FULL do they not understand?

I mean even a small child can understand, with some degree of petulant reluctance and chagrin, that their favorite ride at an amusement park has a queue to get to it. Yes, they may have a small tantrum and rage at the unfairness of the universe, but even they eventually begrudgingly accept that and wait inline like everyone else does.


Yes! Good for you. Thats using your head and adapting. Ofc, hopedully its just a matter of time before others also take advantage of this opportunity and compete with you in pricing at Osmon too.

This ilustrates exactly why it is necessary for their to be a finite quantity on transit to a system.
If the capacity is unlimited, there is no internal mechanism to prevent the unending inflation of Jita.

Jita is a small puddle compared to the ocean that is the rest of the universe.
One cant expect to fit the volume of that ocean, into thatpuddle.

This concept of conservation of volume is something small children cannot grasp when you pour the same quantity of water from a wide jar, into an equally tall, but narrow jar. They cognitively assume that the the narrow one is holding MORE water, than the wide one, because the level is closer to the top of the jar, than it is in the other one.

There is a limit to how much you can "pour" into the finite system that is Jita. At the point that it becomes full, yes, invariably, and understandably, the overflow will have to elsewhere (ie: will pour out of the container). This directly means there are opportunities to catch that overflow in the containers that are the peripheral systems as well as durther remote ones.

It is anthetical to everything that is EVE, that any resource should be infinite. In the case of Jita, the resource in question, is access to a finite system. If there is no restriction on a system, then it naturally becomes the lowest point to which ALL matter, invariably and eventually, flows. Consider if there was an unfillable hole somewhere on Earth, some place that for some inexplicable reason could never be filled, then eventually, over untold aeons, every single drop of rain, every single grain of dust and sand, every molecule of "air", would be deposited in it. Eventually, EVERYTHING would be in that, unfillable, hole. That is the antithetical nature of this impossible proposition.

This is so elementary that I cant understand why it has to be explained to grown adults!

(Caveat: EVE has a precedent for breaking conservation of volume though. Such as items reprocessing into a larger volume than the original item, as well as Containers compressing volume that is greater than their own volume. But this is an unrelated inconsistency, and hopefully one CCP will eventually get around to correcting)

I'm detecting another mass statue-bash incoming....