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outer ring excavations and low sec mining
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Shae Naari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-02-28 17:11:02 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Batelle wrote:


Obviously if you don't know about how nullsec works and how to be safe it will be dangerous, but there's nothing particularly dangerous about it.


Yes indeed, but so...you get there safely.....and then how and where do you acquire an Exhumer or whatever in there ? No markets (from what I've been led to believe).



according to Dotlan, there are 3 systems with stations.
Khoul Ay'd
The Affiliation
#22 - 2014-02-28 17:18:56 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


You were obviously wanting hostility, and nothing more.


No, just looking to end blatantly wrong information that is based on a guess.

Posting knowledge = good
Posting guesses=bad


The things we do today we must live with forever.... Think about it
Khoul Ay'd
The Affiliation
#23 - 2014-02-28 17:30:41 UTC
mup Deninard wrote:
Well I suppose I just wanted ORE in hisec so I could have easier access to the lp store, bpo's are not my thing. I just don't like the idea of having to spend months skilling up gunnery skills and ships in order to do this. I'm a miner not a fighterWhat?


You don't have to train combat skills to make the run out there, a cov ops frig or blockade runner is all you really need. If you're going to play Eve any length of time these ships really are must haves.

I'd recommend checking out You Tube for advice on safely warping through null sec. Even in a blinky ship you need to take some additional precautions, but nothing difficult.

Don't let the forum myths limit you from the dark corner of Eve. Believe me after you make your first run through null unscathed you'll feel liberated. The entire cosmos will become your oyster.

The things we do today we must live with forever.... Think about it
mup Deninard
mupcorp
#24 - 2014-02-28 18:03:01 UTC
Yes unscathed is the point. I probably will skill up for some sort of cov ops thingy but as I say I am a miner and as yet have no plans to go to null or don't anymore if the stuff in the ORE lp store is toilet. I would like to be able to mine low sec ore but cannot see a way to do this safely. I can't see myself going to null because that would mean joining a corp and I can't play very often and I wouldn't be able to do my fair share especially combat wise.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#25 - 2014-02-28 18:39:59 UTC
Batelle wrote:


Well if you want to mine there, you'd have to put your exhumer in your blockade runner. Or carrier jump it in. Or take a wormhole. But again, no different than anywhere else, and in fact probably a whole lot safer than any other npc nullsec (if you leave the station system and hit the dead-end pocket). But its not like there's some advantage to mining out there like the OP was suggesting.

And as stated, you don't need to run missions to get the BPOs. There's nothing there that is special that is being withheld from hisec players (which was the point of the OP). All that's out there are some empty systems with terrible truesec, explorers, and some koreans in 4c that will shoot your cyno or whatever else looks easy and hangs around for too long.


Oh, I'll make it out there someday. My 5 characters are busy enough Big smile. It's just such a huge logistical change to undergo, that's for sure.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#26 - 2014-02-28 18:44:56 UTC
Khoul Ay'd wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


You were obviously wanting hostility, and nothing more.


No, just looking to end blatantly wrong information that is based on a guess.

Posting knowledge = good
Posting guesses=bad





Guesses will always get posted ...and in my case based on what I was apparently told by "those with experience" for 4 years now.

It's not necessary to chastise. It's contentious, and distracts from the informative nature of a forum.

But it is necessary to correct and inform mis-information.

Anyone claiming to know absolutely every last detail of EVE with utter infallible correctness is a liar.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#27 - 2014-02-28 18:51:50 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Batelle wrote:


Well if you want to mine there, you'd have to put your exhumer in your blockade runner. Or carrier jump it in. Or take a wormhole. But again, no different than anywhere else, and in fact probably a whole lot safer than any other npc nullsec (if you leave the station system and hit the dead-end pocket). But its not like there's some advantage to mining out there like the OP was suggesting.

And as stated, you don't need to run missions to get the BPOs. There's nothing there that is special that is being withheld from hisec players (which was the point of the OP). All that's out there are some empty systems with terrible truesec, explorers, and some koreans in 4c that will shoot your cyno or whatever else looks easy and hangs around for too long.


Oh, I'll make it out there someday. My 5 characters are busy enough Big smile. It's just such a huge logistical change to undergo, that's for sure.


I know at least a few people/groups mine out there. There are several systems that lead to no where that see very little traffic. Just plan to operate out of a pos and im guessing a rorqual for ore compression will be necessary. The really long deadend pocket has the last 3 systems mega-bubbled. I never even went into the final system cuz i didn't feel like bothering the guy! The biggest logistical issue is coming up wish a comprehensive list of stuff to take that you won't need to make constant trips for every little thing.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.
Khoul Ay'd
The Affiliation
#28 - 2014-02-28 19:34:06 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Khoul Ay'd wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


You were obviously wanting hostility, and nothing more.


No, just looking to end blatantly wrong information that is based on a guess.

Posting knowledge = good
Posting guesses=bad





Guesses will always get posted ...and in my case based on what I was apparently told by "those with experience" for 4 years now.

It's not necessary to chastise. It's contentious, and distracts from the informative nature of a forum.


Since you were misinformed by others, I apologize for my brash tone.

As I previously stated no ill will was intended, only correcting misinformation.

Fly safe

The things we do today we must live with forever.... Think about it
mup Deninard
mupcorp
#29 - 2014-02-28 19:34:46 UTC
Yes sounds like a bit of hassle and I seem to be missing a rorqual, mining gang, jump freighters, and a posSadBlink. I think I need at least 6 accounts. I'm that close to getting a 4th. Mining is very account intensive
Allison A'vani
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2014-03-07 20:02:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Allison A'vani
Contrary to popular high sec care bear belief, null sec is by far the safest space in the game. If you are a member of any decent sized coalition, then you have very little to worry about. When I fly my JF alt, I am always considerably more worried about high sec than any other space in the game. Other than a few gate camps here and there, there are entire regions of space with no one in it due to the pretty awful changes to negative sec space relating to quality of ratting sites spawning. Most space that has no tactical advantage (like being next to low/high sec space or in a border region) and is -0.1 to -0.5 space, is going to be empty except for poses.
mup Deninard
mupcorp
#31 - 2014-03-07 20:35:51 UTC
Allison A'vani wrote:
Contrary to popular high sec care bear belief, null sec is by far the safest space in the game. If you are a member of any decent sized coalition, then you have very little to worry about. When I fly my JF alt, I am always considerably more worried about high sec than any other space in the game. Other than a few gate camps here and there, there are entire regions of space with no one in it due to the pretty awful changes to negative sec space relating to quality of ratting sites spawning. Most space that has no tactical advantage (like being next to low/high sec space or in a border region) and is -0.1 to -0.5 space, is going to be empty except for poses.



I have to say I have been thinking of moving to null but it is hard to find a corp that doesn't require ts. I am unable to use ts due to location (might get away with listening). I also just want to mine and some corps ( I haven't looked very thoroughly ) want you to pvp as well. I don't mind helping with defence.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#32 - 2014-03-07 21:46:32 UTC
mup Deninard wrote:

I have to say I have been thinking of moving to null but it is hard to find a corp that doesn't require ts. I am unable to use ts due to location (might get away with listening).

voice comms are generally foundational to any well run/organized corp. Corps that don't require them are the exception generally. There are a few corps that will let you get by with speaking minimally, but to not be able to use voice comms at all is typically a deal breaker.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.
Senfora Anophis
An Errant Venture
#33 - 2014-03-08 00:29:10 UTC
mup Deninard wrote:
Well I suppose I just wanted ORE in hisec so I could have easier access to the lp store, bpo's are not my thing. I just don't like the idea of having to spend months skilling up gunnery skills and ships in order to do this. I'm a miner not a fighterWhat?


so go out there and do mining missions?


.....be sure to have instawarps off station (and pray there aren't any bubblers around that day), fly Procurer/Skiffs, and be hella careful.....?
Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#34 - 2014-03-11 07:37:24 UTC
You want high end content
Leave your Concord protected shithole
Stop bitching . Man up

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mup Deninard
mupcorp
#35 - 2014-03-11 09:57:22 UTC
Luwc wrote:
You want high end content
Leave your Concord protected shithole
Stop bitching . Man up



Lol such a clichéd response
Snagletooth Johnson
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2014-03-11 11:41:48 UTC
mup Deninard wrote:
Well I suppose I just wanted ORE in hisec so I could have easier access...What?

But that would defeat the purpose of having ORE in null. outside of the lore, CCP put it out there to lure people into null...if they opend up shop in hi, then why go to null?
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