EVE General Discussion

You know nothng of coding.

And you know nothing of basic usage of PC...
you know what are alpha channels???
that's only messed up here...

Pictures or it didnt happen becuase I have no idea what shes ratting on.

Aside from that I am extremly glad CCP took screen captures of the models instead of having us RENDER said models. Shivers at the thought of the 400mb scene captures they had to deal with, which means the real model is somewhere in the neighborhood of a couple terrabytes large.

Also Planets in X3 are flat, not real models there is no way you can crash into them if you wanted to.

err.. meants to say 400gigs.

Also this is stuff you cannot simply have downloaded on the harddrive and have it load up into the client as you play you would simply not have the memory like some of the developers fun toys do.

lets see.

You want ships with 500mb shadowmaps there are about 610 models now so thats 305 gigs there of infomration

Then the captures are 400gigs each with 80 regions total that puts us at 36.8 terrabytes.

Strange how other MMOs and games manage to do it is it, whos doing it wrong? Stop coming out with stupid stats like this.
Perhaps you should load up battlefield 3, take a look at 2011

I spat out those numbers to give you guys an inkling what the art tech department job is. Its to turn those massive numbers into something crunchable. So instead of our computers dealing with 400gb captures we are dealing with probably 10mb '.png'-ish quality maps instead.

In house resources will always be nearly impossible to run on homecomputers at least on the required 60fps and as fantastic as they look for thier trailers that alot of companies enjoy rendering.

Battlefield 3 is by far one of the biggest graphics cheaters out there. Why else do you think everything in BF3 looks like it belongs in memory lane scene or slice of heaven movie? Its a nice way to hide alot of imperfections it has. Turn that off and BF3 gets ugly real fast. Also another thing you'll probably wont notice in BF3, the eyes are static they dont blink becuase there are no bones for it. Other games like mass effect accounts for eyelids at least. BF3 is just a real good shining example of 2006 over glorified again.

Its all mearly cost for effect, why bother with eyelids when people arent going to be looking that close anyways? Same reason why you dont model every thread and hair on somones skull.

All games do this by the way, they all cheat, they cheat thier original resources to make them operable on computers you and I can afford.

Whole reason why the several thousand polygonal characters alot of games have in the in house resource are around 200 polys on your end software they use the original source to help create the cheats, normal/bumb maps, shadowmaps, light maps, HD textures, all infinetly cheaper resoruce way to project extended complexity.

Also other mmos get it wrong all the time just have to look for it. Most notorius things alot of mmos gets wrong, clipping. Then again I think thats every game in existence.

There are very few engines out there that allows a modder to turn around and try to match inhouse resources and make thier own computers cry for mercy, besedea comes to mind along with crytek. But even then they start hitting engine limits as well.

Unlike some other poster I'm willing to throw down the towel and I am happy to annouce that my own nebulas suck.

Proof

also for that matter how many of these other better looking games allows you to at least give you the illusion you are going thought these backgrounds, Last time I checked they're all static with no chance in hek you'd ever fly though em.

Ill mention it with X3 again, you cant crash into that planet no matter how time dialted you inflate your plank bubble.

Oberine thank you for pointing out what I asked for several posts back. Pictures.

The fact i didnt see this as a problem until pointed out however may just been me.

Now that I do see the problem and if i recall right the star sphere is a seperate layer form the nebula one. I am not sure how'd they go about fixing this to the point that it looks right but Im sure they could possibly do something tweak a spectrum map of the star sphere to that stars that arent near light soruces be more visible than those that arent. Like the ones way far away from the nebulas.

This would require some recoding and relaying the star layer but none the less should be a much more doable episode than a new background per constellation/solar system episode.

^^ LMFAO