EVE General Discussion

Yes, because we all know that new & uninformed players have tens of billions in assets that they will give to someone because they are new & uninformed. People get scammed due to greed. Scams play on a persons greed,

That would make sense if scams targeted the new and uninformed. Generally, they go after the ones who have some actual money to spend — the older ones… who, while they could conceivably still be uninformed, rather seem to fall in the “dumb” category based on how they then complain about what happened.

While I don't scam, my rules specifically require a minimum time in game. However, to be fair, if a new person sends isk, I am forced to keep it. Rules are rules.

Something else that should be considered is that some of these "new" players who immediately join the game with tens of billions and tens of millions of skillpoints acquired such thing in a naughty fashion. If they lose it all to scammers, then the scammers are unwittingly helping to make Eve a better place.

According to Sammy "The Bull" Gravano, La Cosa Nostra would not exist without greedy people wanting something for nothing.

I don't think he takes into account the added expense to metropolitan infrastructure with regard to hauling away all those bodies, and having the mortuary space for them. Though, with regard to that, there is a plus in the employment arena; homocide detectives, forensics experts, even the coroner's office.

The court room arena seems to be 50/50 with soaring costs, however ample employment opportunity with a herd of assistant DAs, and of course the fabulous courthouse with its attendent slate of employees from the parking garage to mopping the floors.

The big however with New Eden is, the "state" has no real interest in combatting crime as there are no opportunities for ambitious attorneys and the like; for instance no outside chance to become a Supreme Court justice.

So, I'm like a lot of folks with regard to this. When I'm standing I'm usually standing right here. *points at "here"*

In game scamming is a vital part of the game.

So I support that 100%.

The spamming of scams is annoying.

And the out of game meta scamming is just bad.

I used to consider scamming amusing but not something I'd do, until someone bought from an overpriced market order and the ISK went to me. I was debating returning the ISK (I think it was a 600m cap recharger or something) then the guy mailed me shrieking abuse. So I kept the ISK and told him as condescendingly as possible to treat it as a lesson learned. Think it's happened a few times since, the conversation always goes the same way, and I still don't feel the slightest twinge of guilt.

Similar thing happened when I was selling researched BPO sets at something like 300% markup. Someone mailed me screaming I was a scammer to which I retorted, nope, just greedy. He then demanded the BPOs at NPC price, which I ignored. Then some other idiot, ahem I mean valued customer, bought it.

You don't have to be an outright scammer to toe that line, especially when you are setting sale prices. If extortion is OK, don't see any problem with outright scamming, although as someone earlier said crossing the line into RL stuff is distasteful.

I don't mind the low-down, back-stabbing, thieving scoundrels -- it's the beggars I don't care for (ex. "I'm new and someone just killed my venture - please give me some money")

Then send me 500mil ISK and Ill make it stop.

I support scams 100%.

New Eden is a dystopian universe filled with unscrupulous characters who will screw you over and take your things. This is not a nice place. Whether people screw you over with nonconsensual pvp or by taking advantage of your poor reading comprehension - it's all allowed and it all contributes to pgc. That's why I don't block scammers in local. I block no one. I want to be exposed to that vile, nasty underbelly of scamming scum. It's a part of the game and the only people I see with issues are those who spend their days in hub locals whiteknighting and debunking scams 24/7. Constantly trying to save ppl from being screwed over just proves that you don't get EVE. This game rewards ppl who take advantage of other ppl!



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Then EVE is not the proper game for them and the chance that 'quitters' would otherwise have become long-term players is pretty low. People who quit because they got scammed will quit because they get ganked too often, because they get wardecced too much, or because they get bountied again and again, etc. etc. etc. IT'S ALL SO UNFAIR!!!

Overcoming adversity is a requirement of EVE. It's supposed to be hard. HTFU?

Besides, scammers need love too.

Have you hugged a scammer today?



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