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Sisi patch 26/2

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Ryu Chaos
Incognito Mode
Brotherhood of Spacers
#1 - 2014-02-26 18:45:44 UTC
You have the tournament in 3 days, and you implement a 700mb patch in sisi, the main training ground of the teams, while we couldnt have duality even for a day? Do you see often 300ppl logged on sisi?Cause other than tournament times i dont think you do..

Appart from the huge annoyance of 700mb being downloaded the slowest way possible, there is also chance that you mess up setups/fits , while in Tranquility they will be viable. I know that sisi is a public testing enviroment but you couldnt wait 2 weeks?

How can you talk about "helping the e-sports community grow" and the only help we had till now was the arenas put in place by fozzie, everything else (private systems like duality, arena bounds etc) is not available and we have to deal with cloaky campers watching our setups all day long. There are 800 plex at stake + 25k $ for the love of god..

@RyuChaos_
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#2 - 2014-02-26 19:20:04 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Fozzie
Hate to break it to you, but our patches to Tranquility affect a few hundred thousand more people than the NEO practices.

SISI is a test server first and foremost, tournament testing is completely secondary to that.

You should expect (smaller) patches on SISI every day or two for pretty much the entirety of the NEO period. I advise getting used to it.

Game Designer | Team Five-0

Twitter: @CCP_Fozzie
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Ryu Chaos
Incognito Mode
Brotherhood of Spacers
#3 - 2014-02-26 19:40:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Ryu Chaos
Thats what i said, i understand that sisi is a public test enviroment, but when you undergo such changes like damps, which were such a part of the last AT meta, help us out a bit as well with duality or something. We have been gettin fed crumbs and when its the matches time "oh we support such events, and we are all about esports", its really not fair tbh.

Can we at least know what changes have been made and if they will be on tranquility before the NEO ends?

@RyuChaos_
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
#4 - 2014-02-26 19:57:32 UTC
i recommend you practice on tq instead
Dramaticus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-02-26 19:58:00 UTC
You could just practice this stuff in your own space

The 'do-nothing' member of the GoonSwarm Economic Warfare Cabal

The edge is REALLY hard to see at times but it DOES exist and in this case we were looking at a situation where a new feature created for all of our customers was being virtually curbstomped by five of them
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
#6 - 2014-02-26 19:58:20 UTC
in bridge range of QPO, if you don't mind
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2014-02-26 20:09:03 UTC
If you'd like, I can offer you some fine rental space in PBLRD, we have several vacancies in low-rent systems you might be interested in.

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Ryu Chaos
Incognito Mode
Brotherhood of Spacers
#8 - 2014-02-26 20:11:17 UTC
i practiced on 70 destroyed carriers of yours this month kthxb

@RyuChaos_
Bob Shaftoes
TURN LEFT
#9 - 2014-02-26 23:35:31 UTC
Is there any chance at all of forewarning of this in the future? I fully understand that a point release is a big deal and rightly has priority over any tournament , but the only knowledge that I was going to have to cancel a practice that had been agreed on a week in advance was when I got home from work and started patching sisi a short time beforehand.

Anyway <3 to fozzie, bro , veritas and the rest of the CCP tourney team for making my stress levels go up twice a year instead of once
Sakura Nihil
Faded Light
#10 - 2014-02-27 02:10:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Sakura Nihil
This is why you decouple SISI and Duality, so that the server can get major patches tested, and we can take care of practicing for an event you guys are hosting in 3 days.

If CCP's really as serious as you guys seemed at Fanfest '13 about getting e-sports within EVE off the ground, apart from the AT, it's a bad idea for things like this to happen. It disrupts practices and setups at a time when we most need access to the test server. On the bright side, it seems like the only thing that got affected were damps and pirate ships, so that shouldn't affect teams too bad.

Glory

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Oli Robbo
Entity.
#11 - 2014-02-27 16:18:32 UTC
Promiscuous Female wrote:
in bridge range of QPO, if you don't mind


So much irony in this, I don't even know where to begin.
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#12 - 2014-02-27 17:56:43 UTC
Sakura Nihil wrote:
On the bright side, it seems like the only thing that got affected were damps and pirate ships, so that shouldn't affect teams too bad.


Pirate ship changes are actually not on SISI since they're coming out in the summer rather than in Rubicon 1.3.

Game Designer | Team Five-0

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Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#13 - 2014-02-27 18:35:49 UTC
I was personally more annoyed/frustrated by the patch nuking my client settings than anything else. I can deal with large client patches, but without a reliable way to import/export client settings that aren't the overview, fixing that kind of problem is extremely aggravating, especially when it results in so much lost time when the entire team has to spend what should have been a practice, getting their clients back into a usable state.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque