Ships & Modules

could u post a video of one of these ships doing AE in 26-28 mins if possible please?

Thats something id have to see to believe

I can confirm, that an AE + Bonus in 30 min or less is possible in a Paladin, although you need nearly perfect droneskills to pull this off and cant go AFK or run the Bastion mode to long, otherwise you loose time.

40 minutes are still easy within the range when you watch TV etc.

Fitting:



Gets you nice 1420 DPS at 33km Optimal Range with the Bouncer and 5% Implants. I think you can pimp the damage even more by throwing in another drone damage amp instead of the tracking enhancer, 2 tracking computer and a MWD are more than enough but better "safe than sorry". Its also mainly there for the hobgoblins to kill frigs faster

One of the differences of Amaar vs other races(where you have the super tanky Mealstrom, the super easy Domi, or the semi afk Raven) is that you don't have a laser based BS that is forgiving. Amarr ships will punish you for bad cap management by running out of cap quick and cap stable fittings by very bad performance. The point when you should get your first Amarr BS is when you can fly the easier L4s in a Harbinger and looking for something with more range and gank. I did only fly a Apoc for like 4 missions with 8M SP(halve of this in Learning skills) on my Amarr char back in the days, then I did swap out for the Abaddon for the bigger bang. However today the Apoc with the extra speed and tracking is very very good and the Abaddon is still the biggest ***** to fly of any BS in a effective fitting, because you need to be extreme good at cap management(even with the cap reduction for lasers last summer). My starter Abaddon was like 2B isk in faction weapons, gist 100MN A type AB and a medium a type rep to keep cap manageable, but did put my 50M SP Kronos to shame performance wise. It is one of the T1 BS that you simply pimp to get as much performance out of it as a marauder/pirate hull, if you can fly it, same was true for the domi before they changed the hybrid damage bonus to drone optimal and tracking.

This would be a new player Apoc starter.

[Apocalypse, Beginner]
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Large Armor Repairer II
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Experimental 100MN Afterburner I
Cap Recharger II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Energy Locus Coordinator II

Hobgoblin II x5
Imperial Navy Curator x2

This is what you should work to on to fly once your skills get better, have some ISK laying around and don't want/can't jump into a Paladin or NM:

[Apocalypse Navy Issue, PVE Foxcat]
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Core B-Type Large Armor Repairer

Core B-Type 100MN Microwarpdrive
Cap Recharger II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L

Large Energy Discharge Elutriation II
Large Energy Discharge Elutriation I
Large Energy Locus Coordinator II

Garde II x3
Hobgoblin II x2
Hobgoblin II x3

Btw I do prefer the Navy Apoc over the NM and Pala because of the high speed and the other options are all bricks.

I'm kinda in the same boat of being a T1 scrub. Currently piloting a Coercer where I can blow my capacitor on weapons alone.

Anyone have a suggestion on what ships I should aim for climbing up to T4?

I was thinking Arbitrator, Harbinger, Apoc, Paladin.

Maller => Harbinger => Apoc / Abaddon => Navy Apoc / Paladin

Always go for maller as cruiser. The Armor bonus gives you the opportunity to go for Turret and Cap Skills and ignore tanking ones fpr the moment. This way you get more DPS, faster, whereas the Arbitrator needs T2 drone skills, something you need at BS level but not cruiser.



This should be enough for every level 2 mission. Focus on Cap skills so you can switch Capacitor power relays for heat sinks or cap rechargers for tracking computers.

Your first Harbinger should look like this:



Now focus on Skills for full T2 Tank, Damagemods and maxed out skills for CPU, PG, Cap and Cap Recharge before you go for Battleship and Large Turrets. While doing so slowly switch out hardeners for more damagemods and use your first rigs.

In the end you Harbinger should look like this:



Then you either go for the Apoc or Abaddon. If your skills in gunnery are All IV or better and your Cap skills are maxed go for the Abaddon otherwise buy an apocalypse. Eitherway, aside from the guns, you should be able to fit a full T2 fitting without any problems.

Now go for T2 Drones and Level 4 Drone Support skills followed by T2 Guns

2 EANM with compensation skills give you nearly the same tank as 2 mission specific hardeners and save capacitor.

The setup is versus angels(with good skills you don't really need it, even in a recon 1/3 or Angel Blockade), the extra hardener can be switched to kin for the Guristas Assaults or EM for people having issues with the tank. In general you can fly nearly every mission in Amarr space(minus guistas Assault) just with 2 EANMs and add another heat sink.

wut?

Resists don't stack like that.

A specific hardener will give 55% of the remaining percentage toward 100% resist. Therefore, if you put a t2 Thermic Hardener on an Navy Apoc you'll get 70.8% thermic resist with the hardener on.

EANMs work the same way. Two EANMS will give you 28.13% of your missing resists, then another (28.13% * 0.87 = 24.47%) AFTER the first EANM is applied. Essentially, you're getting double stacking penalties. If you put two Navy EANMs, you'll get 64.7% thermic resist.

Let's assume you take 100 damage from a pure thermic source. Mission specific you get hit for 29.2 damage, two EANMS you get hit for 35.3 damage. 35.3/29.2 = you're getting hit for 20% more damage on your hardener type.

Whether that's worth the cap savings and whether having extra resists on off damage types is worth it is another story, but need the correct math first.

Wow that's a lot of advice. Thanks buddy!

Tbfh if you're that wrong on something as basic as this then uhm, yeah.