EVE Fiction

did it die off because they hit the end of what ccp has given them?

I am both in, and out, of Arek'Jaalan. It is complicated.

Sufficient to say, the IC research is doing splendid, at least on my part.

Theres also sock puppets using IC 'yer doin it wrong' type crap that makes it largely pointless, IMO.

I actually had you blocked ages ago over another matter entirely seperate. You've been blocked for maybe a couple months now. Unfortunately, mailing lists don't filter people you block. See, unlike others... I -dont- tell them they're being blocked, or why I'll set them red or send mercs after them. I just do it and let them figure it out later on. Thats because I don't need to.

Edit: Telling anyone that I'm going to send mercs after them, or block them or set them to a certain standing or whatever implies that I personally think that we can ever work together on any sort of meaningful level to where talking about something first would do anything worthwhile. This is a fallacy.

I used to enjoy reading the threads about sleepers/rogue drones/EVE backstory in this section of the forum.

Since everybody has switched over to the IC research I find the information much more difficult to access, as I am often unable to distinguish between things that have actually been established/confirmed by CCP or ingame, and the random farout flights of fancy of roleplayers pushing their own versions of events. In other words I find it hard to differentiate between fact and fiction when it comes to Arek'jaalan

Unfortunately I've missed out on most of the live events too (due to being offline or on the other side of the galaxy at the time), and nobody seems to be documenting what happened so I'm in the dark there too

Ah, but you see, that is the wonderful thing about Arek'Jaalen (at least for me) that it actually highlights that the distinction between "player created" and "CCP created" EVE canon is not as great as many appears to believe. You will see much more of this with the Crucible expansion in a few days where, as example, CPF Blue (mentioned in the Naga ship description) is actually a player created "story". Further, take a look on what I wrote on the Takmahl in the Ancient Races portal page. Is that player or CCP made fiction?

Tricky to tell, I would say, as the references appears to back up what I am saying (at least I hope they do). But maybe I am taking pieces of EVE lore written by different CCP employees at different times and putting them together in what might be the most meaningful way, but also a way the CCP employees never have had a round table discussion about and as such is made up by me.

The only important question is: Will other players run along with your ideas or not? "Amarr victor" was not invented by CCP, as you know.


I am quite certain that is on purpose.

As regards the hull section, for me, it's something I just step around, for the time being -- it's too close to something that could be a simple typo to make me comfortable with using it as a source of information.

The simplest thing would be for Dropbear or another dev to confirm if it's intentional or just an oversight when they were writing up the item descriptions here, if they haven't already and I've just missed it. >_>

Speaking of that big rubber stamp:

The Fiction Portal on the EVElopedia will be the official canon repository, and as such it'll be locked. People will be able to add comments in the Discussion tabs on respective pages, but will not be able to alter the content of the pages themselves.

Dropbear and I have talked about setting up a kind of transition process, where player-created (or player-influenced) lore that crops up in Arek'Jaalan or the like will eventually, through some kind of filtration, be absorbed by the Fiction Portal and as such become official canon. Not all of it, but the parts that we like and can fit into our own plans.

That being said, I would ask people to bear in mind (and point out to other people) that both Dropbear and I are essentially working within storytelling systems that we're also actively developing. The Fiction Portal certainly isn't going to contain every piece of lore that you may have heard of through the years, either because it hasn't yet been written up or, just as likely, because it was never official lore to begin with and may even conflict with our own plans.

We're having lots of fun, and we've got plans for a number of other things once Dropbear gets his ass over to the freezing tundra of Iceland.

I am so excited to learn more about the Fiction Portal; will it make my Lorebook redundant or will it be something else*?

And yes, people should be aware that the whole story of EVE, either future or past, has not been written yet. And while it is Abraxas and Dropbears job to keep the story in line it is impossible for them to cover every inch and corner of New Eden since the closure of the EVE Gate until now. This is where players can ship in with their stuff.

*: You seem to be hinting that it will contain player written, but CCP approved, content as one thing.