These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

Scams: Where do you stand?

First post
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#21 - 2014-02-26 23:29:00 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
I'd have thought that pizza burns would prevent the latter for most non sado masochists.
Pizza burns? But in the latest Top Gear, they demonstrated that pizza was an excellent heat shield. I'm so confused now. Cry

+1 for Top Gear reference. Pizza burn is when you bite into that delicious smelling, fresh out of the oven pizza and scorch and blister the roof of your mouth with the cheese that's as hot as the sun, and then spend the next few hours teasing the flap of tissue from the burst blister with your tongue.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack
ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#22 - 2014-02-26 23:30:58 UTC
Send me your forum post and I'll double it. Pirate

ISD LackOfFaith

Captain

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department

I do not respond to Eve Mail or anything other than the forums.
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#23 - 2014-02-26 23:33:39 UTC
Scams are OK if victim is given full information.

Problem is margin scams.

Margin scams are a grey area because victim cannot see that a buy order does not have enough isk to cover it - thats unfair.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#24 - 2014-02-26 23:36:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Scams are OK if victim is given full information.

Problem is margin scams.

Margin scams are a grey area because victim cannot see that a buy order does not have enough isk to cover it - thats unfair.

Margin trading scams rely on stupidity, drunkeness or greed, I know this because I've been caught by one though being both drunk, and greedy. Lesson learnt, I don't play drunk, often, and now diligently research anything that looks too good to be true, 99.999999% of the time it's a scam.

They're easy to avoid, all of the information required to figure out that A: the item(s) you purchased are way over market value, and B: that the buy order is also way over market value is readily available ingame.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#25 - 2014-02-26 23:37:54 UTC
If it's okay by CCP then it's okay by me. Not that I have a lot of choice in the matter if I want to play this game.

Mr Epeen Cool
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#26 - 2014-02-26 23:39:50 UTC
As a reputable isk doubler of some note, I am against scamming. However, as a tireless advocate of the sandbox, I fully support scammers being free to carry out their operations.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
James Nikolas Tesla
Tesla Holdings
#27 - 2014-02-27 00:06:10 UTC
Props for being able to pull one off.

CODE is just a bunch of pirates; smart, organized pirates. It doesn't help to rage at them because that is exactly what they want. Dust yourself off and get back on your feet, you don't even have to talk to them.
Orlacc
#28 - 2014-02-27 00:26:14 UTC
Kimmi Chan wrote:
I typically don't stand when I play.

When I do stand, it's over there.



Jeff

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Jelly Fat
Greedy Bastards
#29 - 2014-02-27 00:28:47 UTC
There I stand.

How powerful will you be?

(Your Wizard Level equals the number of Magic Crystal Balls you own)

Wizard Level: 1337
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#30 - 2014-02-27 00:28:49 UTC
Orlacc wrote:
Kimmi Chan wrote:
I typically don't stand when I play.

When I do stand, it's over there.



Jeff


Jeff indeed!

"Grr Kimmi  Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide

www.eve-radio.com  Join Eve Radio channel in game!
Maxpie
MUSE LLP
#31 - 2014-02-27 00:32:20 UTC
Though I do not scam, I have no problem with it being permitted in Eve in general. I dislike scams that rely on someone making a typographical error or scams based on someone not knowing the more obscure game mechanics (like margin scams, the old freeform contract scams, etc.). Most of all though, I hate scams that are boring, unimaginative copies of things others have done a million times by others. Also, the spam is just awful. I wish I could actually use local when I go to a trade hub.

No good deed goes unpunished
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2014-02-27 00:35:28 UTC
Hal Morsh wrote:
I tossed 2 mill at an isk doubler for entertainment, and a creative explanation on how I broke the rules.

He won't tell me D:


You weren't rubbing your belly, patting the top of your head, hopping on one foot and singing AC/DC Money Talks on Team Speak.
Ralen Zateki
Gladiators of Rage
Fraternity.
#33 - 2014-02-27 01:11:36 UTC
Nerf low sec. Nerf high sec. Nerf all alliance mechanisms. Ban scams of all types. Give noobs free skill points.... um... let's see... uh.... make trade fair.... uh....create a leveling mechanism so that players wtih years of grinding have no advantage over noobs... ummm...
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2014-02-27 01:21:50 UTC
Jita local - and all the nasty scams lurking there - may be annoying, but they make the most populated system of the game feel like Mos Eisley.

Many other games rely on fancy graphics or some scripted npc dialogue to get that 'wretched hive of scum and villainy' vibe.

In EVE, players create it themselves. How cool is that?

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Jaari Val'Dara
Grim Sleepers
#35 - 2014-02-27 01:33:10 UTC
I just block the spamming scammers and move on. Up to nearly 300 blocked, of course it's just a drop in the ocean compared to how many there are.
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#36 - 2014-02-27 01:33:54 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Jita local - and all the nasty scams lurking there - may be annoying, but they make the most populated system of the game feel like Mos Eisley.

Many other games rely on fancy graphics or some scripted npc dialogue to get that 'wretched hive of scum and villainy' vibe.

In EVE, players create it themselves. How cool is that?


+1 sir. Players creating the environment. It's VERY ******* cool!

"Grr Kimmi  Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide

www.eve-radio.com  Join Eve Radio channel in game!
EvEa Deva
Doomheim
#37 - 2014-02-27 01:41:44 UTC
Long ago i sat in Jita and read all the scams in local for a day, some were good some were bad .

Don't fall for them is all i can say.
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#38 - 2014-02-27 01:59:42 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Jita local - and all the nasty scams lurking there - may be annoying, but they make the most populated system of the game feel like Mos Eisley.

Many other games rely on fancy graphics or some scripted npc dialogue to get that 'wretched hive of scum and villainy' vibe.

In EVE, players create it themselves. How cool is that?


Maybe with WiS, we could make it more like Mos Eisley and remove the block function. Mad at a spammer? Pull out your laser pistol.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Garandras
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2014-02-27 02:06:59 UTC
I want to give Erotica 1's isk service a go, but I dont have the minum 50mil required
Capt Fossil
Ice Axe Psycho Killers
#40 - 2014-02-27 02:08:28 UTC
Sad thing is, the only people that would fall for ANY of the plex scams are noobs.

And CCP continues to nerf stuff to make the game more noob friendly?????

Does not compute.