Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Heh yea. Apparently this person was not around when Hybrids in general sucked and Gallente ships were so much slower than they are now.

ECM needs fixed before any other ewar is changed.

I could live with that change.

not a happy celesits pilot.
in my little world, the celestis is certainly not a dominant force on a battlefield.
the Celestis is most effective against Blackbirds > disrupting Logi > support vs one dangerous ship.
on comms, enemy Celestis rarely get a mention. Blackbirds are mentioned often.
at best a handful of Celestis in fleet can be an annoyance to enemy logi. 'oh no, they've got a few Celestis, let's take our 15+ Logi and run!!!!' <- this does not happen.

further changes? what does that mean?
as previously mentioned, the Celestis is currently an under utilised EWAR system which may well see less use.
what can you do about Blobs? they will just blob more?

i think the falloff needs either more clarity exactly what does it mean for e-war mods? perhaps in the description tab so we all know.

and perhaps what it should mean is that for every % of falloff you lose effectiveness of said e-war. also made clear in description tab.

Because that would take us full circle to the situation that caused the great script nerf in the first place. Damps being so powerful that everyone used them on everything. Then they got castrated by scripts. It was YEARS before the damp bonus on damp-bonused hulls was increased to compensate. Damps were literally **** for years. Gallente recons became primarily flown as shield tanks just because you had no need for damps.

I think in addition to adding equivilant sig distortion amps, they should do the following to fix each racial ewar class.
ECM should get rid of racial jammers and add racial scripts that can be loaded. unscripted functions exactly in the same way multispec currently does.

Sensor damps would have AOE lock speed unscripted, and damp range scripted. This would open up some very interesting game mechanics for fleet warfare, as say in FW an incoming fleet to a plex coming into a fleet with damps would be at a severe disadvantage if they didn't have damps of their own.

Tracking disruption is in a very nice place where it currently is, although I would like to see base unscripted changed to tracking speed, and a new script for disrupting missile flight paths; effect would be the missile arcing or looking in such a way that it would reduce its effective range before attempting to hit the ship.

And finally I have a very interesting proposition for target painters; split them over to caldari's second ewar bonus on t2 ewar boats, like the kitsune and falcon, and add a whole new type of ewar called Remote and Local Signature damping. Concord already has a module like this called an Active Stealth field that reduces the parent ship's sig radius; having this and a remote version would be a VERY interesting thing to add on minmatar ships; sort of the opposite of a target painter.
It's more in line with matari lore, and would be more conducive to their tactics of speed tanking. Last note would be their t1 ewar boats; vigil and bellicose respectively, would swap over to having a web range bonus, to again aid in speed tanking and to be in line with the lore.

I think thats the point of these. The buffs last year gave them a little extra power, but CCP is realizing that EWAR from extreme ranges is the real problem. Not the tool itself as much.

I haven't experienced much null fighting with damps so i can't comment on that part of the experience. Damps are counter-able at whatever range they damp. Bombers, cloaky warpins for fleet, assisted sentry fire, fof missiles, drones. However what I see that concerns me more growing trend of CCP stepping in to counter fleets that are effective instead of relying on opposition to counter it. This more trend more than anything else I think is what needs to be nerfed.

It's used EXTREMELY often in factional warfare with gal mil vs cal mil. it's an integral part of midsize to larger cruiser gangs.